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RAIVJUDGE · 02-02-2005, 10:45 PM

Costs too much , you could get a 455 in a Judge. They were produced late in the model year and 455 Judges had Ram Air and a twelve bolt. The 455 was an option. The 71 455HO was a much better engine then the 70 455 because the 71 had round port heads aluminum intake like the RA IV .

PonchoV8 · 02-02-2005, 10:49 PM

He did the right thing to sell it off if he knows he isn't going to keep and restore it. But I thought it was going to a car dealer though. I hope it isn't going to a car flipper. Sounds like he's pretty sour over the results of the auction.

I can't imagine where you read no 455s in a 70. I've never heard of that.

Ram4king · 02-02-2005, 11:34 PM

I think the car was sold to somebody on this board! As for mailtruck venting,I can understand your post about the cry babies but lets be real,Im sure you bought it to resell it.That explains why you didnt know what you had. And I think its a little shady to end the auction for all the real bidders who were on it from the beginning! The guy who bought it did not even make a bid on the car,he just privately talked you into selling it. I dont think anyone should be upset about the car, It will allways be known as the car that was rebodied and had a frame change and will never be worth what a true surviving ram iv judge is worth. As for the 36,000 miles,THATS OUT THE WINDOW! JMO.

rolling money pits · 02-03-2005, 08:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PonchoV8:

I can't imagine where you read no 455s in a 70. I've never heard of that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i wasnt indicating there were no 455s in 1970, i was saying that ive never read about, or seen, any 1970 GTOs with a 455, AND ram air.

all the factory options and spec sheets that ive seen reference the RA III and IV cars, in 1970, as only having the 400s, judges included.

the 1970 455 was the only high compression 455 factory produced, and it came with the #64 heads. the RA cars had 614s or 12s.

well, upon further review, i stand somewhat corrected. just dug through an old McCarthy book and he DOES mention the 455 1970 GTOs with the possibility of ram air. interesting.

He only references them as 455HO in the text, nothing about RA. The engine guide for 70 lists three different block codes, WA for manual and YA/YC for autos. the MT cars took the 068 cam while the two autos took the 067. they both took the 64 heads with the only reference to ram air being the carbs, 7040278 for autos, and 0279 for manuals.

All the service manuals list the 455 as only having the 067 cam, while the ram airs carried the 068(III) or 041(IV) cams. Paul Zazarine makes no mention, whatsoever, of the existance of a ram air 455 in 1970. Also, his charts of factory manuals indicate the 455s as being seperate from the RA 400s and the steepest rear offered was a 3.55 with a 455 engine.

so, it stands to reason that RA 455 1970 GTOs could have been a late production run offering, as indicated earlier in the thread. thus the reason there is no factory documentation indicating their existance, that i know of. and back then, who knows what went on, people could have had friends a dealerships and had non-factory options added at the dealer level. ??? I dunno.....

I'm very partial to the 1970 GTO, thats one that I have, so ive spent considerable time in looking at what's what with them. and to think i had the ability to buy a set of 64 heads several years ago for 150 bucks. *shakes head*

Sport71 · 02-03-2005, 09:48 AM

There's a '70 455 H.O. listed on Traderonline that has factory Ram Air. Very nice car!

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...2/68641162.htm

steve v · 02-03-2005, 08:05 PM

There's a ram air 455 70 GTO on ebay now also. They're rare but they did make 'em.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=7244

Steve

kaysersuzuki · 02-04-2005, 05:22 AM

looks like whoever gets this is defintly getting a better deal

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Steve V:
There's a ram air 455 70 GTO on ebay now also. They're rare but they did make 'em.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=7244

Steve <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

roundportponchos · 02-04-2005, 09:47 AM

Hey, it was your car, so you could do what you wanted w/it. It was a neat car, so glad to see someone will restore it w/bdy shell. Can you post PHS. It's a shame someone let it sit outside to get to that point. I have 2 70 RAIV Judges, great cars!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by mailtruck:
Well I guess I'LL put my 2cents in

This was my car that auctioned off.
I could have pulled it off Ebay and sold it. But I wanted to keep in good standing with ebay so I pulled it off the and relisted it with a buy it now opition. I received well over 200 emails some begging me to sell it out of auction. Most of the same cry babies that have been emailing me nasty emails and leaving lovely phone messages.
This message is to all the cry babies that have been emailing me for the last 2 days. I'm sure the car was worth more then 20K but the guy I sold it to is a class A guy. And I'm glad ghe got it. Over all you cry baby punks (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!) Well I'm done venting now....
By the way IT IS a numbers matching car it does have a 400 ram air IV
and it only has 36000 miles on it. So Dave have fun with the car and now that this car payed for 3 years of private school for my kids.

Thanks <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uncle Judge · 02-04-2005, 11:48 AM

I have been into the 1970 GTO's and Judges for years. I have actually seen several PHS documents and build sheets authenticating the RAM AIR option on a number of 455 cars. Optional on the GTO's and standard on the Judges. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by costs too much:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PonchoV8:

I can't imagine where you read no 455s in a 70. I've never heard of that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i wasnt indicating there were no 455s in 1970, i was saying that ive never read about, or seen, any 1970 GTOs with a 455, AND ram air.

all the factory options and spec sheets that ive seen reference the RA III and IV cars, in 1970, as only having the 400s, judges included.

the 1970 455 was the only high compression 455 factory produced, and it came with the #64 heads. the RA cars had 614s or 12s.

well, upon further review, i stand somewhat corrected. just dug through an old McCarthy book and he DOES mention the 455 1970 GTOs with the possibility of ram air. interesting.

He only references them as 455HO in the text, nothing about RA. The engine guide for 70 lists three different block codes, WA for manual and YA/YC for autos. the MT cars took the 068 cam while the two autos took the 067. they both took the 64 heads with the only reference to ram air being the carbs, 7040278 for autos, and 0279 for manuals.

All the service manuals list the 455 as only having the 067 cam, while the ram airs carried the 068(III) or 041(IV) cams. Paul Zazarine makes no mention, whatsoever, of the existance of a ram air 455 in 1970. Also, his charts of factory manuals indicate the 455s as being seperate from the RA 400s and the steepest rear offered was a 3.55 with a 455 engine.

so, it stands to reason that RA 455 1970 GTOs could have been a late production run offering, as indicated earlier in the thread. thus the reason there is no factory documentation indicating their existance, that i know of. and back then, who knows what went on, people could have had friends a dealerships and had non-factory options added at the dealer level. ??? I dunno.....

I'm very partial to the 1970 GTO, thats one that I have, so ive spent considerable time in looking at what's what with them. and to think i had the ability to buy a set of 64 heads several years ago for 150 bucks. *shakes head* <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SWEETMUSCLE · 02-06-2005, 12:16 AM

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SWEETMUSCLE · 02-06-2005, 12:18 AM

1970 GTO 455 FORGOT TO LIST YEAR

70ram4 · 03-03-2005, 03:57 PM

still got the car?

SWEETMUSCLE · 03-03-2005, 06:25 PM

still for sale

70ram4 · 03-04-2005, 01:09 PM

if you can e-mail pics to ccmarano@aol.com thanks

BobsGTO · 03-24-2005, 01:36 PM

I've read in several books and magazines (most recently HPP) that there were 14 1970 455 Judge hardtops and 3 1970 455 Judge convertibles made. Those 3 convertibles definitely make the 17 1971 Judge convertibles that everyone ogles over not so rare anymore (although I agree the 1971 455 HO engine was vastly superior to the D-port 455 of 1970).

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