[blueghoast]

LOL (obtuse) I like that word.
OK Back to it guys.

GT.

[hp 400 dave]

Victor intake $ 300
E head castings, bare $1,300
Jesel shaft rockers $1,500
Springs $ 800
Ti retainers/locks $ 300
Jesel lifters $1,200
Ti valves $2,500
55mm cam $ 600
Cometic's $ 250
push rods $ 150
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Total parts cost $8,900

That leaves $3,100 for porting the intake, heads, supplying and installing copper seats, honing guides, valve job, setting up the springs, surfacing the heads and intake, machine for push rod clearance, sometimes a torque converter he stated, etc. This would be very similar no matter which casting you were working with when you are building 1,000 plus hp. I would say these prices are actually very cheap when you consider the results. Please don't nit pick the costs as they are approximate for illustrative purposes. I was at my engine builder's shop on Friday looking at a $2,200 set of keyway lifters, so it's really all about the part costs, not the labor.
There's a lot of misinformation and fighting in this section. I can't see how this is helping anyone in the Pontiac community and I'm really surprised that any companies are willing to make parts for us anymore. Very juvenile really.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

You're best to drop this....It was a lot more than head work....LOTS OF OTHER PARTS INCLUDED. And a program with a proven track record(pun intended).

... um, you brought it up in the other thread Mike, not me ... I just clarified ...

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by hp 400 dave

Victor intake $ 300
E head castings, bare $1,300
Jesel shaft rockers $1,500
Springs $ 800
Ti retainers/locks $ 300
Jesel lifters $1,200
Ti valves $2,500
55mm cam $ 600
Cometic's $ 250
push rods $ 150
--------
Total parts cost $8,900

That leaves $3,100 for porting the intake, heads, supplying and installing copper seats, honing guides, valve job, setting up the springs, surfacing the heads and intake, machine for push rod clearance, sometimes a torque converter he stated, etc. This would be very similar no matter which casting you were working with when you are building 1,000 plus hp. I would say these prices are actually very cheap when you consider the results. Please don't nit pick the costs as they are approximate for illustrative purposes. I was at my engine builder's shop on Friday looking at a $2,200 set of keyway lifters, so it's really all about the part costs, not the labor.
There's a lot of misinformation and fighting in this section. I can't see how this is helping anyone in the Pontiac community and I'm really surprised that any companies are willing to make parts for us anymore. Very juvenile really.

... your right, but when you add $5,000-$7000 for porting, you're right on the total ... sorry Dave if I've upset you, but Mike brought it up, not me ...

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by hp 400 dave

Victor intake $ 300
E head castings, bare $1,300
Jesel shaft rockers $1,500
Springs $ 800
Ti retainers/locks $ 300
Jesel lifters $1,200
Ti valves $2,500
55mm cam $ 600
Cometic's $ 250
push rods $ 150
--------
Total parts cost $8,900

That leaves $3,100 for porting the intake, heads, supplying and installing copper seats, honing guides, valve job, setting up the springs, surfacing the heads and intake, machine for push rod clearance, sometimes a torque converter he stated, etc. This would be very similar no matter which casting you were working with when you are building 1,000 plus hp. I would say these prices are actually very cheap when you consider the results. Please don't nit pick the costs as they are approximate for illustrative purposes. I was at my engine builder's shop on Friday looking at a $2,200 set of keyway lifters, so it's really all about the part costs, not the labor.
There's a lot of misinformation and fighting in this section. I can't see how this is helping anyone in the Pontiac community and I'm really surprised that any companies are willing to make parts for us anymore. Very juvenile really.

Dave,
For some people the problem was that if they spent all of that money they did not want to have a head that they had to buy new valve covers for. The other thing was they will have to but new headers. Like the EHTTFMF upgrade would not need new headers.

Stan

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... your right, but when you add $5,000-$7000 for porting, you're right on the total ... sorry Dave if I've upset you, but Mike brought it up, not me ...

Read post 497. You are the only one foolish enough to revive this thread after making the ridiculous comments to begin with.....and then claim someone else brought it up.


Actually this is quite a bit less than I expected........Outer space!lol

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Read post 497. You are the only one foolish enough to revive this thread after making the ridiculous comments to begin with.....and then claim someone else brought it up.


Actually this is quite a bit less than I expected........Outer space!lol

... Mike, it wasn't a claim, it was a true statement ... that's all ...

[mike leech]

Eye roll. Go back and read your posts. You resurrected the thread, and you said it was 12000.

[LiL Jack]

Funny, I just sold my whole top end for half that much!

Not some promise of HP but a dyno and track proven combo!




Haters gonna hate.

[R 70 Judge]

$150 on pushrods? My .375" diameter Smith Bros. pushrods were $600!

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by R 70 Judge

$150 on pushrods? My .375" diameter Smith Bros. pushrods were $600!

My .375" Smith Bros. pushrods were less than that. Under $300 direct from them... Yours titanium or something?

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

My .375" Smith Bros. pushrods were less than that. Under $300 direct from them... Yours titanium or something?

Not titanium. Custom 9 of each at 10.250" length and at 10.100" length. .145" wall if I remember correctly. Ordered through Butlers for my Highports. About $33 a piece. Guess I could call Butler's and ask what is special about them?