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Lets just say it would be very interesting if someone built an all-out N/A Pontiac engine using those heads. Stan
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Stan, he has to argue opinions because he can't argue facts.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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making more power than you guys is a fact. A cave man could do that.
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Not dogging you, just saying. Last edited by GTO Dan; 03-27-2014 at 11:49 AM. |
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You can't be that stupid to compare my motor to a Pro Stock operation that spends about two million dollars a year and have been doing it for decades.
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In my class there are a lot of 632s with sheet metal intakes and two fours with two systems. They usually run 4.70s-5.30s so we should be right in the mix this year hopefully.
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If you are being compared to Pro Stock, that is one of the highest compliments Stan can pay you.
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Let's compare a 541 ci engine to a Pro Stock. ► 541 * 2.95 = 1595.95 HP Stan
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I could see it making 1100hp on motor, but idk, Jack hasn't posting anything about the combo besides cubic inch and heads, nor has he made any predictions. I'll stick my neck out and say it will surely make more than 966hp. JMO, Bryan |
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We are in total agreement. Based on what you have said, and for other reasons there is no way in the world that a Pontiac engine can make close to Pro Stock HP per ci numbers at this size. You said Pro Stock and I posted numbers which showed that even with Aaron's and my high number we were not close to Pro Stock numbers. Stan
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We strategize in the beginning of the program, then we build some actual hardware, test the crap out of it for a couple of years, make changes, test the crap out of it again and then release the product. The difference between our Ford Research deal and your deal Stan is you haven't got past the second step or really even started the second step). You are a couple of thousand test hours behind on your program. At some point you have to get away from the calculator and "PULL A LEECH" and test something. JMO Tom Vaught ps There is a Pontiac Racer (named Chris Piper) who works in our Research Lab who does the dyno job daily. (He will tell you I speak truth, Kemosabe)
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Just numbers would they be? That a canter valve head on 4.625" bore sizing block @ 541 ci should make 1300 HP with a tunnel ram and a carbs. I wonder what Visner would thinking it could make? Stan
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How much has a Warp 6 motor made?
Never mind I saw on KREs website there max effort 535 made 1104 HP and 823 torque with a sheet metal and two dominators. And they have had them a couple years. Hmmmm
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First Pontiac powered street car in the 7's 7.940@170.84. 3460#s Last edited by LiL Jack; 03-27-2014 at 08:16 PM. |
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Why can KRE only make 1104 HP with there 535 with a sheet metal and a pair of dominators?
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Lil Jack spewed:
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Mark ran 7.25 @ 189 MPH He ran 7.16 @ 199 MPH a year later (2012) How much more power do you think he was making in a years time? (more than 1100 I guarantee you, probably over 1200 HP) Who knows what they are making now. One other thing, they don't have a lot of time to develop their own program, so I would say they would not be a good example for maximum power. Probably others have done better.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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EHTTFMF! Being dead, it is not hard on you. You don't even know you're dead. It is hard on everyone else that is not dead. BEING STUPID WORKS THE SAME WAY! The rest of us suffer. |
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Who has the fastest calculator?
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Mike, never met Dave but Chris is much like Mike McCarty, the salt of the earth in the Pontiac community.
Tom V.
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