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Old 11-26-2023, 10:11 AM
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My 1970 Polarwhite Judge was imported to Sweden at the end of 1975.
The other day I received a picture message from the first owner in Sweden.
He said that the car was painted with flames on the hood and front fenders when he bought it.
He also told about a collision with a bus and that the car then got a new front and fender on the passenger side.
The car was then repainted and again later when the vinyl top was removed, both times white.
But what I'm wondering about is that he said the rear wing was black before the repaints, as the image in the 1975 photo shows.
I never thought my car ever had a black wing before I got this picture.
Could it still be the case that my 1970 Polarwhite Judge had the WT7 option from the factory/dealer?
I have no documentation other than the PHS document and the build order, neither of which show anything about the WT7 as far as I can see.
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Old 11-26-2023, 10:41 AM
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Did the 1st owner say if the judge stripes were black? Or it didn't have stripes just the flames?

Good looking Judge though.


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Old 11-26-2023, 11:20 AM
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Thanks John.
Would be even better looking with black air foil and stripes?
But only verified as WT7 of course.

Unfortunately the car was motif painted when arrived to Sweden, so no stripes mentioned.

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I'd have to check my notes, but seems like the 1970 WT7 was not noted on the build sheets except possibly the Fremont plant?
I think HFR had reported this? (not the WT7 but the stripe color)


The WT7 Judges from Canada are reported on theirs I believe.



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The Baltimore Bsheet would call out WT7 below the WT1 in the last column.
There is a Ram4 4spd WT7 from Baltimore that has it spelled out on the Bsheet , in that way.
It was shared by the PY member who owned it in the 80's


I did a thread titled "1970 Buildsheets and stripes" years ago.
iirc Baltimore was one of the sheets that didn't provide any stripe or decal color data.

WT7 would have coordinated/complimented with the black vinyl top pretty nicely though.
Build may have been just a hair too early for the WT7 option.

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Old 11-26-2023, 10:29 PM
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Pontiac plant would have been the only Bsheet that wouldn't spell out WT7.
But it gives option code 604 and stripe color data to prove it out.

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Old 11-27-2023, 04:29 AM
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Thanks BWZ,

i have found sales code #604 for 1970 is H.D. SEATS.

Sales code #604 for 1971 on the other hand is indeed WT7.

Too bad Baltimore build sheets did not include out the WT7 option, if there was one.

I never gave this option a second thought for my Judge due to lack of information but when i got this picture from the first owner in Sweden showing the black air foil as it came from the US i 1975 makes me wondering, if it is really a WT7.
Guess we´ll never know for sure?

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Old 11-27-2023, 10:40 AM
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Actually we do know that Baltimore spelled out WT7 on a 70 Bsheet.in the lower ledger.
There is a thread started by Carl about the Baltimore WT7 Ram4 car , where the Bsheet proof was provided.

The Pontiac plant Bsheets will be the only ones that do not spell it out since they use a different format than all the other plants.
Without the breakdown of UPC codes in the lower ledger.

604 is the option code for WT7 in 70 and 71.
It takes a deeper dig than what is sometimes generic text of the PMD Bsheet.
We have already vetted that out.
HD seats were not an option on GTO.
Some of the codes have a criss-cross between other model lines.

Another example is where the GTO option on earlier cars was 382
382 on the earlier PMD sheets lists Police option.
Police option was not available on the GTO
It was available on a 4door Tempest.

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Old 11-27-2023, 12:03 PM
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PY member Rare4k owned this Baltimore Ram4 Polar White Judge in the 80's.
It has moved around several times since then and is now reported to be in Minnesota.

It was in North Carolina for a while - and For Sale - but the owner at that time would not return any correspondence with me.
In his listing he stated he had the Bsheet and it was a WT7 car.
That was probably 10-15 years ago.

Several PY members have seen the car and the full Buildsheet in person.
Don King / Ram4King examined the car and Bsheet as a potential buyer when the NC owner had it for sale and has vouched for its legitimacy.

But this portion of the sheet is all that has been shared with us.

I think this only makes 4 documented 1970 WT7 cars in total.


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Old 11-27-2023, 12:42 PM
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Thanks BVZ,
The sales code 604 WT7 for the 1970 GTO/The Judge appears to be well hidden!
I have yet to see this on any factory ordering documentation.
One thinks that there should have been more than 4 1970 WT7s over the years that could have been verified on any plant car building order.
It is said to be 51 in 1970 and 15 in 1971?

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Old 11-27-2023, 02:05 PM
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The given production total for 1970 "might" be right.... overall.
But was said all of them came from the Arlington plant .
We have not found a single WT7 from Arlington , yet.

1 from PMD , that uses the 604 code in box 60 (actually shows code 605 because it also had option 601) .... and we know it did not have HD Seats.
It is further proofed by having code "B" in the stripe box , which is Black.
E is Blue
O is Orange
Y is Yellow

1 from Baltimore
2 from Oshawa


1971 all 3 are PMD plant cars. iirc
2 were sold new in Canada and have WT7 listed from their GM of Canada report.
The US car has Bsheet with 604 method and B in the stripe box.

In 1970 the WT7 schematics were widely used in PMD paid ads in magazines.
I believe ... probably most buyers thought that is what they would get just by ordering a White Judge.
Maybe not in every example , but probably a majority.

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Old 11-27-2023, 02:53 PM
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There is a 4th 1971 car that is highly believed to have been a WT7 car.
It was built at PMD and used by PMD
But the Bsheet was no longer with the car when PY member bought it.
Car had already been fully restored previously.

It was 4spd with Black interior and well optioned.
Sold for over 6 figures a couple/few years ago.

The 71 US WT7 car was Automatic with White interior

The Canadians - one is 3spd M13 , one is 4spd
One has Blue interior , one has Brown interior.

1970 cars
The PMD car was built for/used by PMD
Ram4 4spd Red Buckets
A die cast has been made duplicating the car.

Baltimore was Ram4 4spd Black Buckets

Oshawa cars were both Ram3 4spd
One with Black Bench
One with Black Buckets

The last time I saw a picture of the 70 PMD Ram4 WT7 , it had been converted to a
standard White Judge with White Spoiler and Blue Decals.
Was listed for sale on eBay , with no sale.
No mentions were made of its WT7 / PMD use pedigree.

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Old 11-30-2023, 04:39 AM
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On my Judge Baltimore build sheet i have B96 WHL OPNG MLD, D80 AIR FOIL, N98 RALLY II WHLS, WT1 THE JUDGE and Y86 DECOR GROUP.

What is the deal with the sales code no. 324, UPC Y86 Decor Group option on my Baltimore built Judge? According to Eric Whites GTOAA ID Guide and 1970 Pontiac 4200 GTO order sheet and 1970 Pontiac Accessories folder the Y86 contains sales code no. 471 UPC PO1 Wheel Discs-Deluxe and sales code no. 694 UPC B96 Wheel Opening Moldings?

Obvioulsy my JUDGE do NOT have the 471 UPC PO1 Wheel Discs-Deluxe.
Was instead the D80 (then black?) air foil included in the Y86 Decor Group in early production for Polarwhite Judges and even other colors, before the sales code no. 604 UPC WT7 was available with the black wing AND black stripes?

Food for thoughts.
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On the Canada reports for the WT7, they show the WT7 as the code for the black spoiler, with a note saying must include the black stripe.

The partial Baltimore build sheet BVZ posted shows the WT7 code for BLK decal.

Yours being an earlier build, who knows if they may have used a different code for it if it is a WT7?

BTW, did your PHS show a Change Order?


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Old 11-30-2023, 05:56 PM
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I am not aware of any Change Order on my PHS.

Was the rear flat black airfoil included in the UPC Y86 on early built 1970 Polarwhite Judges?
No info found so far to confirm this, but it seems odd to have both B96 and Y86 on the same buildsheet. Search goes on....

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Here is a base engine 70 GTO from Baltimore Bsheet
Has B96 and Y86

No Judge
No Spoiler


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Old 11-30-2023, 08:07 PM
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I can't access my files , but think I had a decent number of 70 Baltimore Judge Bsheets.
And a decent amount of White 70 Judge Bsheets from various plants.
Some day I will get that straightened out and check them for those duplicated codes.

That base GTO example actually did have hubcaps - not R2's
So not a full fledged comparison exactly.

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Old 12-01-2023, 05:28 AM
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Thanks both BVZ and John W!

It would be fun if there was something in the Y86 code that means the wing was black on early Baltimore-built white Judges, as the wing on mine was black when it came to Sweden in 1975.
Then we have the picture from the performance catalog of the Judge with a black wing and yellow/blue/red stripes.
Any definitive answer will probably be difficult to get, but most things seemed to be possible these years?
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I see nothing on your build sheet Kenth that would indicate the rear foil came factory painted black.

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I see those decals as Black Red Yellow in the ad.

Have read where people older than me - witnessed many cars where owners had painted their spoilers black on practically any color Judge.
Likely influenced by the WT7 magazine promos.

It didn't become available until around mid-November iirc

There has never been a known stand alone option or alternate for just the spoiler color.
But once a car arrives at a dealer , anything becomes possible.
Day 2 and going forward has any possibility also.

The Cadillac/Olds dealership I went to work at in the mid-80's ,,, ordered something like 20 of the Yellow Ralley 350 cars in 1970.
They had to color change the majority of them to sell them all and it still went into the next model year before all were gone.

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