[sdbob]

Can you imagine how many vehicles fuel up in an hour at a gas station? (I'm trying not be be a cynic) ok ,oh dear we need to charge stop at the next charging station, you and how many? How much time? Local commuter car ok but trips I'm not buying. We use to pass are used cars to people who couldnt afford new. So now what happens? Govt buys them cars?

[kingbuzzo]

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/02/14/...-order-report/

[misterp266]

Ford has stopped production of EV trucks.

https://thehill.com/changing-america...-battery-fire/

Meanwhile . . . . .

[59safaricat]

Originally Posted by misterp266

Ford has stopped production of EV trucks.

Looks like a temporary halt, not a permanent one.

While technology far into the future may address current problems in EV cars/trucks, I think people who fork out 6 figures on a radically new product with zero foresight of short or long-term issues need to have their heads examined. Those who depend on their truck to make a living (not mall crawlers/status symbols) need a product with a solid well proven design with excellent reliability and minimal headaches on the source it's powered by.

[59safaricat]

Originally Posted by misterp266

Ford has stopped production of EV trucks.

Looks like a temporary halt, not a permanent one.

While technology far into the future may address current problems in EV cars/trucks, I think people who fork out 6 figures on a radically new product with zero foresight of short or long-term issues need to have their heads examined. Those who depend on their truck to make a living (not mall crawlers/status symbols) need a product with a solid well proven design with excellent reliability and minimal headaches on the source it's powered by.

[Tom Vaught]

Do not see anyone, except for me, that has ever done the job.
I am sure that there are some who are quietly out there.

Fill out a application and show that you can do a better job on designing a new product.

Then do it for 40 years like I did. SIMPLE. Everyone get to have an OPINION.

If you hit a HOME RUN on everything you do you must be playing Slow Pitch softball
on a Mixed (Girls and Guys) team.

Tom V.

[6869GTO]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

TRUTH THERE IN POST BY 428goat and the time line is about right.
"Electric transportation is in its infancy."

Done with this thread.

Tom V.

Why did you come back?

[scott70]

Originally Posted by 6869GTO

Why did you come back?

Lol....exactly. Selfboast



Problems with the EV vehicles themselves are just part of it. The charging infrastructure is the other part. They're pushing the ev thing hard and neither the vehicles or the infrastructure are ready for it. It's the proverbial cart in front of the horse. Don't whine and say I'd like to see you do it. Dont send out subpar products and say its good. We're no where near a ev takeover so keep working at it...they've got a ways to go to make it practical for everyone.

[242177P]

https://i.poastcdn.org/24a2c79ab46e5...4cfa6bf867.mp4

[grandam1979]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Do not see anyone, except for me, that has ever done the job.
I am sure that there are some who are quietly out there.

Fill out a application and show that you can do a better job on designing a new product.

Then do it for 40 years like I did. SIMPLE. Everyone get to have an OPINION.

If you hit a HOME RUN on everything you do you must be playing Slow Pitch softball
on a Mixed (Girls and Guys) team.

Tom V.

Is really an option they catch on fire or a fact?

[Tom Vaught]

Anything mechanical can have issues.
Yes, they catch on fire. Have seen quite a few posts of race cars & parts catching fire
over the years and burning down a garage. Maybe time to take race cars off the road.

Safety Hazard.

Again lots of opinions, minimal experience.

I can change my mind any time I want on whether to post based on any new info.

Believe there are only a few like Bart or Stuart that can make rules. So the government has issues with parts (recent helo crash) (B2 grounding) etc.

Poor choice of words, Grandam, do not think any manufacturer would have an "Option"
related to creating a fire on a vehicle.

Your beloved Pontiacs have been OUT OF PRODUCTION for years. For a reason.

Good article by Car & Driver magazine

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...al-statistics/

Tom V.

[kingbuzzo]

Any next-gen battery carries the risk of spontaneous fire if they have a defect in the manufacturing process, or they are mistreated, or even old.

Same reason they force landed a plane last week because somebody's old notebook started smoking.

[The Champ]

You can always tell an engineer, but you can't tell him much....


(That's a joke, Tom)

[scott70]

EVs catching fire is just a small part of their problems. Its the big picture you need to look at when it comes to EVs. Theyre an option,,,,not the answer. Their limitations and expense are big factors if you have nothing to drive but EVs. And theyre far from being environmentally great. I didnt know that pontiac engines/cars arent being built anymore because they were polluters. lol

[Tom Vaught]

Today's paper: Some Ram Heavy Duty trucks could overheat and cause a fire.

There are 6.7L DIESEL trucks (341,000) of them.
So the electric vehicles are not any worse than a conventional DIESEL Internal Combustion Engine as far as fires go.

Facts not BS (but of course some do not want to read facts).
How many years, has Diesel Vehicles been offered for sale????????????????

Just saying

Tom V.

[scott70]

Like I said the EV fire thing is a small part of the big problem picture but at this point the whole thing is just beating a dead horse .If you cant see the limitations problem with EV then you should sell your ICE vehicles and buy all EV. No you say? Why not? Not ready yet?

[242177P]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Then do it for 40 years like I did.

39.5

[Tom Vaught]

Thank You. Actually 39.75 since you brought it up. But I rounded.
You made me laugh on that one. You missed your calling.

Tom V.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by scott70

Like I said the EV fire thing is a small part of the big problem picture but at this point the whole thing is just beating a dead horse .If you cant see the limitations problem with EV then you should sell your ICE vehicles and buy all EV. No you say? Why not? Not ready yet?

In a previous post, I said give it 30 years before Electric has resolved enough problems to sell I lot of vehicles.
BUT gas and diesel engines have been around a lot longer and are still having a lot of issues.
Be honest on that deal.

Oops Forgot that this thread is a EV and Engineer bashing thread.

Tom V.

[Stuart]

Come on guys, knock it off or this discussion will get closed. It's managed to remain (mostly) civil for a long time, we don't need a bunch of petty bickering.