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Yes, I'm sorry if we've gotten off-topic here! I sent some specific marketing-tie in brochure that was original to Mr. Joe Bortz to be with the Bonneville Special. He was very grateful. I have copies. Will look for anything else. We did have some leather dealer embossed key fobs but not sure if they're still around. The one thing I was disappointed about getting misplaced/thrown away was a large diagram/photo of the GM proving grounds test track. It was in our service entrance for decades.

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That is all very cool stuff. The Bonneville Special was always such a cool design. Feel free to sway off topic with any of that stuff.


The old driveshaft paint rings. In this case 3.42 differential so Orange, Blue, Brown (OBN for the code). Guys are saying to send this to Quanta for a reburbish.







274318 7.529 All F-- (8.900) BOLT, front eye (1/2''-- 20 x 5'') 2 1967 1974 7-23






The eye bushings were not coming out easy so I went with a little heat. Made sure I was outside and did it over a metal bucket with a bunch of ash in the bottom to catch the molten rubber.



Just a little bit of black smoke (hehehe) as I let them burn...



And burn some more...



Until it burned all the rubber out...

I used an old screwdriver to push molten rubber out occasionally to give it a fresh surface to burn.



Then I used my reciprocating saw to cut a slice through right where the loop comes back around on itself. Then chiseled the rest inward until it got small enough to slide out.






Voila!!

For the other side: Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Finally finishing up the house remodel and getting back to the car.

I found this broken spring just yesterday. Can anyone identify where it is used on the car? 1971 Trans Am M22 without A/C. If Brad is reading this don't say if you know.

There is roughly 100 winds to the spring. You can see the loop to the right end is no longer a complete loop. Anyone ID this? I know NJSteve has at least been close to this spring at one time, but obviously his was not broken.




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How about a timely hint from the purpose of the spring? Think "Instrument Cluster"...

And the picture above is a close-up of the spring...

Anybody? A guess?

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I have no idea, but since you said to go ahead and guess, and since you said to think "Instrument cluster" I'll take a whack at it. Is it for the park brake ratchet? If broken, does the park brake fail to release all the way, thus leaving the "park" light on in the instrument cluster?

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How about a timely hint from the purpose of the spring? Think "Instrument Cluster"...

And the picture above is a close-up of the spring...

Anybody? A guess?

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Not a bad guess. Not the parking brake spring, though. It's entirely enclosed within the instrument cluster. The spring wire diameter is 0.008" or I believe they also call it 2/0 (two ought) so it's pretty small. I'm not aware of spring wire smaller than 0.006" diameter so this is almost the smallest spring wire readily available - extension spring - 100 winds - right hand turn - appears to have been wound on a 1/16" diameter mandrel. I bought a couple of 12" long 1/16" stainless steel rods to use as mandrels and a roll of 0.008" music (spring) wire and I'm going to try winding one myself once this stuff arrives. I do have a Porter spring winder that I've used a lot but mostly with 0.055", 0.063" or 0.085" wire. Much bigger stuff than this, but they claim you can wind down to 0.006", the smallest I can find like I mentioned, so hopefully good to go.

I have to wear reading glasses and also use a strong magnifying glass to really see this spring in any detail. I took the picture and then zoomed in A LOT. That's how I was able to count the coils. No way I could easily do that even with the glasses and magnifier.

Guesses? I thought using the word "timely" in that last post would be a dead give-away.

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Tic toc tach clock spring.

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Gotta be the spring for pulling the clock points back to the reset position. You shoulda put a ruler next to it for scale.

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Mums the word!

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Tic toc tach clock spring.
Good job!

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Gotta be the spring for pulling the clock points back to the reset position. You shoulda put a ruler next to it for scale.
Oh yeah! Very specific. You do know your clocks. They are pretty cool. I read this website and then opened up some clocks I have.

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/restora..._old_car_clock

I manually wound them and none worked at all. First I used DeoxIt D5 (probably the same Radio Shack cleaner they were talking about in that link) and gave them a good wash followed by some compressed air (gently). Two of those started working. I waited for the points to close and checked continuity from red to black on those two and it looked good. So I hooked one up to my bench power supply and set it for 12.6 volts and about 4 amps.

Crank up the volume and you can here the tic toc and the reset. I just got some clock oil today so hopefully I get a better kick and some improvements in operation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZQg3hc0nr0

The 3rd one had the broken spring and I got the wire but still waiting on the mandrels. I could probably take one coil from that end and make it into a loop, but I want to try my hand at wrapping a .008" wire.

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When I 1st saw the spring I thought it was the spring that pulled the PRNDL back to park when you shifted the lever on the column . ??? Was wrong I didn't know there was a wind up spring in the clocks>> .Great info. Thanks

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It is amazing how many springs are in these cars when you start thinking about it. Just to give some scale to this one, as NJSteve suggested, here's a picture with a dime, then the spring, then a 1/16" drill bit that slides inside the spring perfectly, a toothpick and I unrolled a little of the new spring wire and that is the last item on the bottom.



It's a little thicker than the thickest human hair, but not a lot.

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Chad. What's new?

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Hi Brad. Going good here. Better now, anyway. How's the car treating you?

I got a call yesterday from the guy that I bought some new NOS lower control arms from and he says they should be here to me by Saturday. They include the ball joints and bushings. I should be able to get this car to roller stage once I install them, although I think I need 2ManyTAs to come compress the front coil springs for me - using nothing but his bare hands...

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Lower control arms showed up tonight. They need a little attention and I'm going to replace the bushings in them since they are dry cracking, but they should do the trick. They are sporting the part numbers

6260591
6260592






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It looks like the edge of the paint ends in different places. Were these dip painted rather than sprayed? Were the bushings already installed when they were painted?

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That is all very cool stuff. The Bonneville Special was always such a cool design. Feel free to sway off topic with any of that stuff.


The old driveshaft paint rings. In this case 3.42 differential so Orange, Blue, Brown (OBN for the code). Guys are saying to send this to Quanta for a reburbish.



I have owned a few with the color spacing this far apart, do you know the distance apart? I assume the orange is toward the front? . Thanks would love to see it if its done too..

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It looks like the edge of the paint ends in different places. Were these dip painted rather than sprayed? Were the bushings already installed when they were painted?
I think these had to have been dipped. You just know GM didn't spend the time masking down in spots like this. And I do think the bushings were installed when it was dipped. Lots of pictures to look at. The bushings are shot and one of the ball joints doesn't look real good and has a slightly different look on the bottom. I've got a set of NOS ball joints that should fit so I plan to carefully extract the one and install another.















Here's the start of the second one.
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Both seem to have come from the same dealership in Los Angeles.

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Cool pics. Thanks!

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I have owned a few with the color spacing this far apart, do you know the distance apart? I assume the orange is toward the front? . Thanks would love to see it if its done too..
Hi Bruce. Yes, you are correct in assuming the orange is toward the front. I threw a tape measure from the front tip of the driveshaft itself, not including the slip yoke at all, and the stripes are roughly layed out like this

Orange - starts at 20"
Blue - starts at 26.5"
Brown - starts at 32"

Each roughly an inch wide. I can see the brush marks and it looks like they just gave the driveshaft a spin to apply the paint. Purely a guess.



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