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Old 04-30-2021, 10:25 AM
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Default There's A New "Hyper Car" Coming In 2023

A 200 mph Hydrogen powered car from Viritech. Powered entirely by Hydrogen. Looks great too.

Read about it here:
https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/v...en-1234610539/

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So what do you use for fuel? I know it has a hydrogen fuel cell but don’t you need to add water or gas (of some sort) for it to work?

Very impressive car

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Well wow, good thing the Brits chose a suitable structure material the avoids hydrogen embrittlement,

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Hydrogen is the fuel. It burns..... remember, hydrogen was in the atomic bombs dropped in WWII on Japan.

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Even if it actually comes to fruition, they are planning on only building 25 of them and "Buyers can expect to fork out around $2.1 million (£1.5 million) per car. But, hey, think of all the money you’ll save on fuel."

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So where do you stop off and buy Hydrogen at??

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So where do you stop off and buy Hydrogen at??
Donta be silly, the store has it.

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Back a bunch of years there were a few gas stations with Hydrogen pumps. I recall seeing then President George Bush. Filling one and driving it.
As a means to improve fuel economy there are many different ways to inject hydrogen into your induction system using Water and some electrolysis
This is NOT that. This is fill it up and drive..

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"As of January 25, 2018, there are 39 publicly available hydrogen stations for fueling fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) in the United States—35 in California, 2 in South Carolina, and 2 in the Northeast. Another 29 public stations in California and 5 in the Northeast are planned." https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcell...eling-stations

If that car ever sees production I doubt it will be certified for the US, so in this case it's probably a moot point.

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That is a cool looking car in the Lambo/Ferrari/Mclaren vein. About 10 years ago now, I drove a Toyota Highlander hydrogen fuel cell car about 15 miles in a factory demonstration of cars they said would be in production in two years, three tops. This was Toyota with near infinite resources and it is still in the works. At the time, the Highlander I drove, the Toyota Rep said is cost 2.4 million dollars and they had a fleet of 50 in a testing protocol. So it would be an incredible achievement if this little start up in England can make this happen. Who knows.

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Hydrogen is the fuel. It burns..... remember, hydrogen was in the atomic bombs dropped in WWII on Japan.
The bombs that ended the war weren't H-bombs. "Little Boy" used Uranium, and "Fat Man" used Plutonium, those are A-bombs. H-bombs use Deuterium and Tritium. They're in the family, but they're nothing like Hydrogen. HTH.

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I would bet that 'Big Solar" would block this along with "Big Musk" .

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Toyota says they are very close to a hydrogen powered car right now.

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Energy storage versus liquid fuel like gasoline. It's hard to beat gasoline.

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Power density and energy storage is still a big issue, but getting a little better. The 1400 LB battery in a Tesla will take you 300 miles on a charge. That's 4.66 Lbs. of "fuel" per mile. Gasoline car getting 30 miles per gallon is .2 Lbs. per mile of "fuel". The electric geeks will say, "yes, but you can recharge the battery and go another 300 miles". That's true, but how many additional lbs. of of coal did it take to charge that battery?. It's a complicated equation that many want to make overly simple. Electric and gasoline vehicles will co-exist in some form of mix for the next 30-40 years. Hydrogen powered cars will possibly be in the mix as well. Fun times.

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Hydrogen is the fuel. It burns..... remember, hydrogen was in the atomic bombs dropped in WWII on Japan.

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I know it's not "quite the same" but every time I hear hydrogen power vehicle I can't help but think of that famous hydrogen powered vehicle the LZ 129 Hindenburg and May 6th 1937.

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The bombs that ended the war weren't H-bombs. "Little Boy" used Uranium, and "Fat Man" used Plutonium, those are A-bombs. H-bombs use Deuterium and Tritium. They're in the family, but they're nothing like Hydrogen. HTH.
And that hydrogen was not “burned.”

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"As of January 25, 2018, there are 39 publicly available hydrogen stations for fueling fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) in the United States—35 in California, 2 in South Carolina, and 2 in the Northeast....
Tom Vaught told us - not too long ago - in another thread - about Ford taking a pretty big roller coaster ride with Hydrogen Powered cars. (took place years ago)
They put in Hydrogen Stations in the test market areas.
Maybe some of these existing stations - were from the Ford deal . idunno

Ford walked away (after tremendous investment) mostly due to Hydrogen would only last for about 2 or 3 days (i forgot which) once it was tanked into the vehicle.
Nothing could contain it any longer than that.

Jesse James learned the same lesson not too long ago with a Hydrogen Powered Bonneville SaltFlats car they built. When they got to The Flats - the Hydrogen they took with them had escaped from the tanks they built.

Maybe Tom V. will tell the Ford story again.

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That's the thing about hydrogen - it's been proven to work just fine in fuel cell vehicles, but there 1) isn't yet an economical method for producing it that compares to the cost of electric or gasoline, and 2) finding a good way to get it into the car and then keeping it there hasn't yet been perfected. They may eventually find solutions that will make it a viable alternative, but they aren't there yet.

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