[66Post]

Originally Posted by 66Post

Are you still looking? I have a Colt AR-15 one owner I bought new in 1975. Last fired in 1984. PM me if interested.
Rich

Thank you all for the interest, I can't attach photos to the PM response so I throw a couple of pixs up here. Please send me you email address and I can send more if interested.
Rifle, 2 Colt marked 20 round mags, one Kay marked 30 round and one unmarked 40 round mag included along with the original Owners manual.

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by 66Post

Thank you all for the interest, I can't attach photos to the PM response so I throw a couple of pixs up here. Please send me you email address and I can send more if interested.
Rifle, 2 Colt marked 20 round mags, one Kay marked 30 round and one unmarked 40 round mag included along with the original Owners manual.

Just to make sure this isn't a "select fire" weapon is it?

[PonchoV8]

What's the barrel length, Rich?

Just to make sure this isn't a "select fire" weapon is it?

Yeah, the booklet was a little unnerving, but as I understand that's one of the features of the earlier SP1 version. It's milled to accept the components if you buy a DIAS. A registered, transferable one, that is.

[sleepy]

No. And it was made(at least the upper) in the early 60s. It's chambered for .223 so you can't use 5.56 in it, There's no forward assist, and the front takedown pin is wrong.

[PonchoV8]

I see the front pin. What indicates the upper is 1960s? I don't know ARs well. Slab side SP1s were made up to the 80s weren't they?

[sleepy]

They were made till 82. They changed military version in 66-67 and added the forward assist and a cleaning kit compartment because the original design (no forward assist) was jamming in combat. That's when they came out with the A-1. The air force still had some of the older(non assist) until the early 90s but these were 25+ year old weapons. It would be helpful to see the serial number to determine the year made but the colt's patent firearms stamp says early(pre 70) rifle,

[66Post]

Sale Pending.

[66Post]

Originally Posted by PMD1969

Just to make sure this isn't a "select fire" weapon is it?

I bought that Desert Publications book for "S's and G's" back in the day. Probably won't find them on ebay these days. No select fire, it's against the law.

[Cliff R]

The front takedown pin isn't wrong, I had a much later Colt HBAR and it had the larger pin same as the one in the pick. Colt did that to their civilian versions of the M-16, and the lowers of course didn't have the select fire feature.

The biggest issue with early guns was the environment they were being used in. They were not chrome lined and didn't have the same coating on the internals that modern guns use.

They were replacing the M-14's, quickly got a bad reputation, and early units were not very well accepted by the troops over their fighting at that time. In the jungles of Viet Nam they would fail due to rust/corrosion in the chamber/barrel, and fail to feed the next round or eject the fired round in many cases. The forward assist was added and the barrel and chamber chrome lined. This was a BIG improvement for the M-16.

When I first started small arms training shortly after entering the Military the early M-16's without the fwd assist were still in service, but in the training environment only. They had been upgraded with later chrome lined barrels, and we never had any issues with them, even after firing many thousands of rounds thru them.

They were phased out by the A-2's, which also had a 1-7 twist barrel and easier to adjust rear sight.

Modern AR's are just much better guns all the way around, with the flat top uppers the owner can change from sights to optics in seconds, and buy multiple uppers in various configurations for a single lower. Options for them are pretty much endless, and why they have became so popular in recent years.....Cliff

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by 66Post

No select fire, it's against the law.

Have you or anyone else ever used or heard of a Slide Fire stock?
They feel similar to full autos when you turn the knob. They can dump a mag real fast.

How are they able to skirt the law?
Just curious?

[66Post]

Originally Posted by Cliff R

The front takedown pin isn't wrong, I had a much later Colt HBAR and it had the larger pin same as the one in the pick. Colt did that to their civilian versions of the M-16, and the lowers of course didn't have the select fire feature.

The biggest issue with early guns was the environment they were being used in. They were not chrome lined and didn't have the same coating on the internals that modern guns use.

They were replacing the M-14's, quickly got a bad reputation, and early units were not very well accepted by the troops over their fighting at that time. In the jungles of Viet Nam they would fail due to rust/corrosion in the chamber/barrel, and fail to feed the next round or eject the fired round in many cases. The forward assist was added and the barrel and chamber chrome lined. This was a BIG improvement for the M-16.

When I first started small arms training shortly after entering the Military the early M-16's without the fwd assist were still in service, but in the training environment only. They had been upgraded with later chrome lined barrels, and we never had any issues with them, even after firing many thousands of rounds thru them.

They were phased out by the A-2's, which also had a 1-7 twist barrel and easier to adjust rear sight.

Modern AR's are just much better guns all the way around, with the flat top uppers the owner can change from sights to optics in seconds, and buy multiple uppers in various configurations for a single lower. Options for them are pretty much endless, and why they have became so popular in recent years.....Cliff

Cliff,
Thanks, some of these guys need to stick to cars and stay away from guns. I bought this AR new in the box in about 1975, so I know it wasn't screwed over.

[PonchoV8]

If a person has a flat top upper and a scope, what are people using for a good mount?

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by PonchoV8

If a person has a flat top upper and a scope, what are people using for a good mount?

LaRue Tactical. I have a 1.5 mount for a scope

[PonchoV8]

Is it quick disconnect? I forgot to mention that.

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by PonchoV8

Is it quick disconnect? I forgot to mention that.

Yup.

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-t...s-mount-lt-158

[My442]

A friend of mine has approximately 50 full auto guns.

4 Thompsons, M60s, M16s, etc.

Even a german MG42.

All legal and all working.

Mind blowing.

[PonchoV8]

You have a rich friend or they were bought long ago.
I just discovered these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To4x0hMd43k

[PMD1969]

Originally Posted by My442

A friend of mine has approximately 50 full auto guns.

4 Thompsons, M60s, M16s, etc.

Even a german MG42.

All legal and all working.

Mind blowing.

Any pictures?

[Cliff R]

"Cliff,
Thanks, some of these guys need to stick to cars and stay away from guns. I bought this AR new in the box in about 1975, so I know it wasn't screwed over."


You are most welcome. I forgot to add that anything made by Colt, even older guns, bring very high prices pound for pound compared to modern offerings and "parts guns", etc.

They also make a special adapter front pin to use any of the Mil-spec or modern uppers on the older Colt lowers that have the large front take-down pin.

Here's a pic of my Colt HBAR, might be difficult to see, but it also uses the large front take-down pin.........Cliff

[PonchoV8]

Man, the prices they're all bringing are serious. I thought we were about to see decreasing prices? And at a recent show they were higher than the last one a couple weeks ago.

What brand/style do you guys like in the way of handle (pistol grip)?