[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Nah, weight pretty much is everything.

Kids? LOL!



GTO George

[dragracerx2813]

Yes weather plays a part . But if ask someone what they run, I don't was what the weather was.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

Yes weather plays a part . But if ask someone what they run, I don't was what the weather was.

That’s true but when you’re comparing apples to apples you better compare apples to apples.......just saying!


GTO George

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

.......yes but that’
May not be all the facts.....! What if one car with the same 7.70ish ET runs the ET in 60 degree weather and the other does the same ET in 90 degree weather, which one is making more HP? You see what I mean! Weight isn’t everything, it’s just part of the equation.



GTO George

Go race in 60* weather then.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Go race in 60* weather then.

Got nothing to do with me oh young one.....just making a statement.


GTO George

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Got nothing to do with me oh young one.....just making a statement.


GTO George

A dumb statement at that. We race all year long.

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Nah, weight pretty much is everything.

Not true. But, you know that.

Jim

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by twooldgoats

Not true. But, you know that.

Jim

If you put a 1300hp motor in a 3000 pound car, it will get run over by a 1300hp motor in a 2200 pound car every day unless the 2200 pound car owner/driver/tuner is a complete idiot. Fact...

[Tom Vaught]

Can't argue with that statement, John. Quite a bit more work involved in the 800 pound difference.
So tell us Jim how John's statement is not true. Really want to learn here.
Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Nah, weight pretty much is everything.

This IS the statement Jim said it wasn’t true! Get it right!
......and it’s not everything!

GTO George

[John Langer]

Some people shouldn't be allowed to internet.

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by John Langer

If you put a 1300hp motor in a 3000 pound car, it will get run over by a 1300hp motor in a 2200 pound car every day unless the 2200 pound car owner/driver/tuner is a complete idiot. Fact...

The fallacy in your reasoning is you're making HP a constant and weight the only variable, But, in fact, HP, weight, density altitude, chassis, tires and a lot of other things can be variables. Does every engine make 1300 HP?

[PontiacMatt72]

Me says keep a list of who run what. Period. Either you’re faster or slower.

Weight matters, sure. Weather, sure.... IF you’re trying to decide who made more power at any given moment on any given day. Otherwise, it’s an excuse as to why someone got outran.

What makes this whole thing fun is if someone doesn’t like being “below” (slower than) someone else on a “list”, they can show up and run each other at the same track in the same weather, and forget the weight. Either you’re faster or you’re slower. Who cares if you make 1300 hp or 2000 hp. Boost or N/A. If you aren’t satisfied with your “position” or status, make a change. Otherwise, wear it with pride.

That’s the only way to keep up with a list.
ET/mph talks, bullchit walks.

Sticky with a modifiable and time-stamped list, no replies allowed. Otherwise it gets lost in the technicality bullhockey banter. Could even establish some sort of list-race type of deal at events like Norwalk tripower nats, Pontiac Heaven Or any other event.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by twooldgoats

The fallacy in your reasoning is you're making HP a constant and weight the only variable, But, in fact, HP, weight, density altitude, chassis, tires and a lot of other things can be variables. Does every engine make 1300 HP?

Common Jim you know weather and altitude don’t mean anything! LOL!

GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by PontiacMatt72

Me says keep a list of who run what. Period. Either you’re faster or slower.

Weight matters, sure. Weather, sure.... IF you’re trying to decide who made more power at any given moment on any given day. Otherwise, it’s an excuse as to why someone got outran.

What makes this whole thing fun is if someone doesn’t like being “below” (slower than) someone else on a “list”, they can show up and run each other at the same track in the same weather, and forget the weight. Either you’re faster or you’re slower. Who cares if you make 1300 hp or 2000 hp. Boost or N/A. If you aren’t satisfied with your “position” or status, make a change. Otherwise, wear it with pride.

That’s the only way to keep up with a list.
ET/mph talks, bullchit walks.

Sticky with a modifiable and time-stamped list, no replies allowed. Otherwise it gets lost in the technicality bullhockey banter. Could even establish some sort of list-race type of deal at events like Norwalk tripower nats, Pontiac Heaven Or any other event.

This makes a lot of sense, the rest of it is as stated above. Langer is faster NA than both of the weather boys even with their Boost Corrector.

Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

At least WE have Race Cars! LMAO! Couch Boy!


GTO George

[JSPONT]

I just stated weight because we all know when your chasing an et, your not going out on a 90 degree day to run your best.
If 2 guys are running 7.70's one guy 2800lbs the other 3600lbs you know who had to put more work in. That would only be a piece of it though. If you notice from Billy's chart, it states if the car is NA, nitrous, or turbo...
Did some guys take the short bus to school with helmets on???

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PontiacMatt72

Me says keep a list of who run what. Period. Either you’re faster or slower.

Weight matters, sure. Weather, sure.... IF you’re trying to decide who made more power at any given moment on any given day. Otherwise, it’s an excuse as to why someone got outran.

What makes this whole thing fun is if someone doesn’t like being “below” (slower than) someone else on a “list”, they can show up and run each other at the same track in the same weather, and forget the weight. Either you’re faster or you’re slower. Who cares if you make 1300 hp or 2000 hp. Boost or N/A. If you aren’t satisfied with your “position” or status, make a change. Otherwise, wear it with pride.

That’s the only way to keep up with a list.
ET/mph talks, bullchit walks.

Well said!


GTO George

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by PontiacMatt72

.....Me says keep a list of who run what. Period. Either you’re faster or slower......

That’s the only way to keep up with a list.
ET/mph talks, bullchit walks. .........

.....

Bingo!!!

Jim

[Elarson]

Grocery Getter
4.883 @ 147.17
7.571 @ 182.55
2970 lbs

(way back in 2009....doesn't seem that long ago).

Eric