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For a Norwood Car
$158 could put it in southern Florida - or out in Texas somewhere.
Thats just a scope/range in general.
Up-North spots would be cheaper.

The very bottom of SC was $131 , so it wasn't taken anywhere in SC.

It either went deep southeast , or westward - from Norwood.

i think the free USA shipping was for service members stationed abroad.
This buyer must have been stationed state-side.

Non-AC Auto in Texas or Florida doesn't seem too fantastic in reality.
But who knows .......

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Interesting info, I guess it could have gone anywhere really, just found by poncho mike in the early 80s in SC. I would guess a service member who was treating himself maybe upon return from overseas, by late 73 Vietnam was really wound down, our presence in Europe was huge still though. I had a chance to use the service persons program and it was decent but not overwhelming for sure, my challenger was just through a local dealer who treated me very well I got a car with a few better options for not a whole lot more. With it finding its way to SC could have been like a PCS move sell?

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Cars do travel

Just added that info in case you ever got curious about where it might have came from originally. So checked shipping amounts on other Norwood examples.

Most likely a base area in Texas , or a base area in Southern Florida
Corpus Christie and Cape Canaveral come to mind , could be others.

All northern directions are much cheaper
Further west than Texas - cost gets higher than yours

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Texas has some big bases ft hood and ft bliss so that may make sense as they were big and still are

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With the seatbelt delete, I bet that one actually went overseas. Interesting Mark

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I saw that too when it got posted , but didn't want to comment.
At the destination price - it didn't even leave Ohio.

Could be the Export Order Formality allowed that to happen.
Most everyone still hated seatbelts in that time frame.
My Grandfather bought a new 74 T-Bird and had the seatbelt buzzer disconnected after less than a week. He either had to buckle it behind him - or wear it.
He had it disco'd .

I never got in the habit of seatbelts until it became a law with a fine attached.

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changed my mind on seat belts after hitting the windshield in a head on crash by a drunk driver.

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With the seatbelt delete, I bet that one actually went overseas. Interesting Mark

It did indeed - Kingston Upon Thames GM dealership in souhtwest London

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Very cool!
Is this your car?


I have another PHS from a Formula that is an export like that.



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Notice the 'Tagged' #'s after the 79322 (which may be the dealer code for Kingston Upon Thames?)


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changed my mind on seat belts after hitting the windshield in a head on crash by a drunk driver.
DAMN - what year did you get your license ?
What year did that happen ?

My great-grandfather died from complications of internal ruptures from waist-belt/seatbelt not longer after a collision.
That was a turn-off.
But in reality , things may have happened even quicker (instantly) if he hadn't been wearing it - or maybe not .... i was about 5

My mother fell asleep and crashed my dad's pride and joy 61 Ford Convertible while they were engaged/enraged before i was conceived . [i'm sure they were already practicing though]
Not wearing seatbelt.

Somehow it threw her into the passenger floorboard instead of throwing her out of the car. [probably dead or severely injured]
When car stopped , there was an iron pipe [home made mailbox post] sticking through the windshield and into the driver seat where she would have been sitting - [dead-impaled] . She had a bump on her head and a sprained wrist.
Car was dead.

Seatbelts were not my fancy back in the day.
Almost no one around here wore them until it became a law - with a fine.

Today, we need all the seatbelts and airbags we can get !

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I saw that too when it got posted , but didn't want to comment.
At the destination price - it didn't even leave Ohio.

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It did indeed - Kingston Upon Thames GM dealership in souhtwest London
We may never get the proper handle on these Export/Export -- Export/Military/Stateside -- Export/Military/Export -- fiasco's.

Up until a year or so ago we all had been observing the myth that military could get cars shipped anywhere stateside for free.
That hasn't held water - At All.

I do see something that might be an identifier/clue.
Will study some others i have.

$10 on the London Car wouldn't have gotten it out of Norwood , barely.
When PMD sold cars through the Retail Store - that was about the same Destination Cost , and it was within the same vicinity as the Plant.

So maybe the London Car went to a very near Inventory Lot and the Shipping Agent had other means to get it to a Port , themselves.

I'll report back later with any findings.


Just for curiosity and more importantly verification , do any documents exist pertaining or relating to the car selling New in London ?
No point in chasing hear-say , as they say.

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My fault - TA was $14 Destination, not $10

In 1970 , Retail Store Destination from PMD Plant was $10.75
allow for small increase year by year through 73 - it gets tight.
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DAMN - what year did you get your license ?
What year did that happen ?

My great-grandfather died from complications of internal ruptures from waist-belt/seatbelt not longer after a collision.
That was a turn-off.
But in reality , things may have happened even quicker (instantly) if he hadn't been wearing it - or maybe not .... i was about 5

My mother fell asleep and crashed my dad's pride and joy 61 Ford Convertible while they were engaged/enraged before i was conceived . [i'm sure they were already practicing though]
Not wearing seatbelt.

Somehow it threw her into the passenger floorboard instead of throwing her out of the car. [probably dead or severely injured]
When car stopped , there was an iron pipe [home made mailbox post] sticking through the windshield and into the driver seat where she would have been sitting - [dead-impaled] . She had a bump on her head and a sprained wrist.
Car was dead.

Seatbelts were not my fancy back in the day.
Almost no one around here wore them until it became a law - with a fine.

Today, we need all the seatbelts and airbags we can get !
happened November 13, 1981
it was Friday the 13th.
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by the grace of god nobody died however my brother almost did and had many surgeries to recover.

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was trying to use my phone and post some driveshaft pics, I can still see the bands but cant make out the colors. Strange in that either the driveshaft was originally black and the bands are just faded or the driveshaft was painted black and you can still see the bands through thin paint?

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happened November 13, 1981
it was Friday the 13th.
full moon
ate at a Chinese restaurant fortune cookie said something bad is going to happen to you
branson Missouri out by silver dollar city on what used to be called dead mans curve
drunk driver going 100 mph + in a 68 olds Delmont 88 4 door
my clock in my 79 trans am stopped with all three needles on 6
play the twilight zone music now
my cousin was in his 77 trans am right behind me and it totaled his also.
by the grace of god nobody died however my brother almost did and had many surgeries to recover.
Incredible
Glad you guys lived to tell about it.

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