[Gach]

So I guess then I don’t have call Comp cam and bitch at him and tell him he got my cam wrong…because mines not a single pat cam. you realize how Contradictive all this quoting is. So lets see Comp right but according to Harold their wrong. In Comp saying single pat cam that at 80% intake to exhaust flow ratio

[Stan Weiss]

About 15 years ago before many of cam companies were bough up. I called like 5 cam companies and after giving them all the specs, none of the cam specs they gave me were the same.

Stan

[Gach]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

About 15 years ago before many of cam companies were bough up. I called like 5 cam companies and after giving them all the specs, none of the cam specs they gave me were the same.

Stan

EXACTLY! A while ago on Yellow Bullet they gave specs to David Vizard and I think Scott Brown. Guess what they were both close in spec’s. But not exactly the same. They all have cam programs I have a screen shot of Comp Cams. The only way to really tell who’s cam is really better is doing dyno swap same day same dyno. You know billet telling someone that a cam with 195 @ 200 is not good for a stock Pontiac block, when guys have been running them for years. Those specs have also been quote here for years.

[Gach]

David Vizard seminars are most educational. His formulas are very educational.

[Dragncar]

David Vizard loves Scat rods and cranks to 1000 HP. I watched a video where he said their 5140 rod has been good to 1000 HP.
Plenty of guys would not try and make that kind of power with a Scat 5140 rod.
Point is, there are lots of different opinions.
BTW I don't know why anyone would backhandedly call out Tim G at Bullet.
His reputation is golden.

[Steve C.]

Stated- "So now what your saying is comp recommending a single pat and cam for 79-80 intake to exhaust ratio, is wrong and Harold is right ! "

Gach, When I spoke with Chris Mays it was in relation to my SPECIFIC combination at the time using a solid roller cam and considering the variables for this specific combination only, NOT the general public.... or any of your combinations !
We discussed, among other topics, my cylinder head parameters, my full exhaust system in use and as I mentioned my very low compression ratio. And the lobe separation involved, which has not been brought into the conversation.
With this I brought up the subject of using a single pattern cam and he agreed with me.

Onward thru the fog.


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[Gach]

With this I brought up the subject of using a single pattern cam and he agreed with me.

So now story changes. Good to know.

[Steve C.]

Gach

Go back and read my initial post number 10 here. Where I mention Chris Mays at Comp suggested a single-pattern cam. For my specific combination in discussion.

The information provided there did not represent any endorsement by me, it was based on personal experience and was offered for general interest only.


AGAIN, onward thru the fog !



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[Gach]

Steve, i’m so glad you cleared that up, because in your initial post sounded like Chris Mays was the one who recommended the single pat cam, when in reality it was you who suggested it and he agreed. The sun is shining now. One little tidbit when trying to spec a cam for my new combination hearing so many good things about Tim at Bullet. I gave him a call funny part he never asked me if it was going in a stock block. I got to say it was very close to my Comp cam in spec’s. But being WD with Comp I just went with them. Oh and Scott Brown cam he spec out was really close. I don’t thing either of the two other cam guys cam would have made much difference in hp. Although Scott did say his would make 825 hp. The motor in question did make 810 hp. So who knows did he leave 15 hp on table going with Comp cam. Don’t think it would’ve been worth the money to by both cams and dyno same day.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

Steve, i’m so glad you cleared that up, because in your initial post sounded like Chris Mays was the one who recommended the single pat cam, when in reality it was you who suggested it and he agreed. The sun is shining now. One little tidbit when trying to spec a cam for my new combination hearing so many good things about Tim at Bullet. I gave him a call funny part he never asked me if it was going in a stock block. I got to say it was very close to my Comp cam in spec’s. But being WD with Comp I just went with them. Oh and Scott Brown cam he spec out was really close. I don’t thing either of the two other cam guys cam would have made much difference in hp. Although Scott did say his would make 825 hp. The motor in question did make 810 hp. So who knows did he leave 15 hp on table going with Comp cam. Don’t think it would’ve been worth the money to by both cams and dyno same day.

Gach,
What ci size was the engine?

Stan

[Gach]

535 cubic inch.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

535 cubic inch.

Gach
Has anyone ever built a stock block 535?

Stan

[Gach]

What ? Are you serious ! Kind of a dumb question.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Gach

What ? Are you serious ! Kind of a dumb question.

Then why would you say this?

[QOUTE=Gach]
funny part he never asked me if it was going in a stock block
[/QUOTE]

Yes kind of a dumb post by you.

Stan

[Gach]

How’s David Vizard student doing.

[Dragncar]

Tim Goolsby know Pontiacs. He knows a 535 Pontiac is always a aftermarket block.
Since 500 cu. is about tops for any PMD block using a 4.5" stroke crank its a well known thing amongst knowledgeable Pontiac guys. And Tim is exactly that.

[Gach]

Stan you make it pretty obvious by taking what I said completely out of contents It’s like you’re sitting there waiting I mean do you have something going on in your life, usually people do, that do that. because it makes them feel better.

[Gach]

The whole point I was trying to make, is you could probably call all three and they’d be a little difference in the specs. The bottom line is you never really know unless you’ve tired cams back to back. Tim is highly respected amongst some in Pontiac community, and for very good reasons. But it is easy to set some guys up and watch them trip over themselves. LOL funny part is the PM’s and phone calls we all get a good laugh out of it.
What’s that old saying birds of a feather flock together. LOL

[Stan Weiss]

Stan

[Jay S]

Could consider having the comp 308R reground to something that would work better. To stay with the roller direction it is about as cheap and option as there is. Talk to Tim, send it down to Bullet.