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Finally on the dyno
After many years waiting the next step in getting my 67 Firebird back on the road happened last month. Initial startup of my motor. Sounded great. But will need to wait until Monday for full break in and a few pulls to get a good power reading. But it started.
Here are the basic specs - 455 +.060 full 4 bolt main 74cc KRE d-port heads flowed to 310 cfm Edelbrock Performer RPM H-O-Racing TRW L2359F pistons dished 16cc Forged SCAT H-beam rods bushed for floating pins Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Was happy with the initial numbers. Oil on the dipstick was nice and clear. I'll check the oil filter contents later. We only did two pulls with no timing or tuning changes. Carb might have been a little undersized. So with the EFI and timing control I think they should get better. Peak torque was 593 @ 4100. But what was nice was the logger started at 3000 and torque was already at 536. HP was 528 at 5100. Not too bad for a nice cruiser. Can't wait to get the car paint and on the road. Cal Hartline will do the tuning when ready. Fortunately he just lives down the street and has a chassis dyno in his garage. https://www.facebook.com/1733181256/...6210553762707/
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s Last edited by 67 455 Bird ragtop; 09-22-2021 at 05:55 PM. |
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I dont see what the intake was?Tom
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s |
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Sounds nice Mark! Can't wait to see it.
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I think with the heads and cam you have you are leaving a lot of HP on the table with a dual plane,even a RPM.JMHO,Tom
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Sounds good!
I hope to see it also soon.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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What would you recommend instead for a street cruiser??? I'm open to honest and helpful critiques. Would a spacer be another option ???
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s |
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IMO,thats a LOT of cam for a street cruiser.245-252 on a 112 was about as much as I liked driving in traffic.If your going to drive it a lot just use the RPM and forget about peak HP.Tom
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Nice build! What carb? Pretty sure you're going to pick up significant power tuning jets and timing
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w Ram Air manifolds, HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, T400, 9" w 3.50s 3905lbs 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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X2 on the cam. That's pretty radical, especially with a 108 LSA. That being said, stick with the Performer RPM and if possible add a 1" space to it.
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62' Lemans, Nostalgia Super Stock, 541 CI, IA2 block, billet 4.5" crank, Ross, Wide port Edelbrocks, Gustram intake, 2 4150 style BLP carbs, 2.10 Turbo 400, 9" w/4:30 gears, 8.76 @153, 3100lbs |
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600 HP engine IMO with the correct induction.Tom
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IMHO the 108 LSA will really affect " cruising" unless you like running in lower gears at higher rpm at 45-50 mph.
Pretty "Choppy" at Idle to 2800 rpm.
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any chance of getting a cylinder compression reading after the final break in / dyno session?
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Nice numbers. I agree with above remarks in regards to H/P. I have two engines 455 .030 that made 600 H/P and 600torque with KRE D- port heads. We used the Torker 2 intakes. Found no difference with the RPM intake. Performed the same. I ran 950 quickfuel carbs on both engines. What carb was used on dyno? What was your compression ratio? What was your total timing?
Timing on both engines was right around 32 deg total for us. I see you have 1.65 rockers. We ran just the 1.5 ratio rockers. Cam we used was SD performance Road paver. 246/252 dur @ .050" lift .608"/.608" lift with 1.52 ratio rockers 112 or 114 lobe sep Only difference we ran Crower solid roller lifters on both engines. Last edited by chuckies76ta; 09-24-2021 at 09:06 AM. |
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