[GTO JUDGE]

GTOAA's 44th NATIONAL MEET

JUNE 27 - JULY 1, 2023

CROWNE PLAZA

SPRINGFIELD, IL

SAVE THE DATE

We'll headed back to one of the most heavily attended GTOAA Conventions in: Springfield, IL.
Hosted by the Gateway GTOAA Association
Much more information will be headed your way.

[bill ryder]

WONDERFUL 2017 was a great show. Good venue. Lots of cars. Glad it is going back to Springfield.....

"Bill"!

I just do not understand why GTOAA and POCI struggle so much. Like a couple of kids fighting over a toy. Same date in 2023. So you have to pick. Choose me. No, choose me. The co-ventions are WONDERFUL. Someone is going to have to step forward, put their big boy pants on. We are definitely getting older, but I don't know about smarter.

[GTO JUDGE]

Originally Posted by bill ryder

WONDERFUL 2017 was a great show. Good venue. Lots of cars. Glad it is going back to Springfield.....

"Bill"!

I just do not understand why GTOAA and POCI struggle so much. Like a couple of kids fighting over a toy. Same date in 2023. So you have to pick. Choose me. No, choose me. The co-ventions are WONDERFUL. Someone is going to have to step forward, put their big boy pants on. We are definitely getting older, but I don't know about smarter.

Good point Bill. GTOAA traditionally holds our conventions the last week of June up to the 4th of July. POCI the week or so after the 4th of July. Years ago there was a gentleman's agreement between the former AA president and POCI not to step on each other's convention. Since then 2016, 2018, and now 2023 their dates encumbered ours. In 2014 the 50th Anniversary of the GTO, I personally put together the huge GTO event in Carlisle, it was then learned, their convention date was changed to that same date, the 3rd weekend of June. Take it for what it's worth.

I don't know the circumstances on their scheduling nor am I'm not going to get into a pissing contest over this but your point is well taken, we've been hearing the same from others. Our dates do not change, except for 2021 in Wisconsin when our chapter set up the date then decided they couldn't host the convention, we had no choice but to proceed with the date they chose or have no convention, we discussed that date with Chula Vista Resort and that week was the only week they had available and they made it financially lucrative for us to honor that date. If you look at our history of scheduling you'll see we are stable in our dates.

[bill ryder]

I was NOT pointing at the dates coinciding again. More at the reason WHY the two national clubs don't seem to get along at all. Not being in the know, is it either less expensive or possibly MORE beneficial for the two clubs to hold co-ventions? Or is it just harder to locate a venue for the larger show? Or is it just*********. Just curious.

Appreciate the reply!!!

CO-VENTIONS are great...

"Bill"!

[Cardo]

Co-ventions need to become standard operating procedure in my opinion. There's strength in numbers and economies of scale. I would think it would benefit both clubs. It's not like either of the conventions are huge, and with fuel prices and inflation I'm thinking many members will begin to have to choose one or the other.