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Old 10-14-2022, 06:46 PM
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Default Refurbishing a scratched & scuffed clock lens for my 69 Bird...

I've purchased a 69 FB clock to put back in my dash. It's got some light scuffs and scratches on it.

What procedure or product can I buy to help me buff those out?

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Old 10-14-2022, 07:20 PM
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If you can feel them with your finger nail they are likely too deep. Othewise what works for me is, 2 or 3 applications of Meguiars Fine Cut Cleaner using a yellow, blue, or white microfiber towel. Follow that with a couple applications of Meguiars #3 Machine Glaze with the same towel a couple times. It will look like new. There are probably a hundred other ways, but that is a rare lens and you need to be careful. I always have these polishes on hand for paint work, so I utilize them.

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Old 10-14-2022, 10:39 PM
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For anything lexan like you can use pledge or plexus which is what we use on airplanes for fine scratching.
Sometimes if it’s too deep you’d have to wet sand it out and then keep moving up w compound and water mist (so it doesn’t burn) til
It’s clear. I’ve had to do with with airplane windshields people scratched.
There’s also a product for lexan headlights that guys use now instead that’s a wipe on deal but I haven’t used it yet.

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Old 10-15-2022, 07:41 AM
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I've always used a plastic polish. If the scratches are deep and don't come out, use rubbing compound.

PlastX $7.98 at Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-Plas...92842617&psc=1

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Old 10-15-2022, 11:47 AM
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If you have some metal polish on hand, like Flitz or Simichrome, it will work as well.

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Old 10-15-2022, 01:33 PM
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Thank you for all the replies! I'll go figure out what I've got in my current pile in the garage besides rubbing compound, and see what else is available locally.

Again, thank you all for the responses!

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Old 10-16-2022, 04:19 PM
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I've always used a plastic polish. If the scratches are deep and don't come out, use rubbing compound.

PlastX $7.98 at Amazon[/url]
Found PlastX at Walmart for $7.99. I used with decent success after two applications of the product. Thanks very much for the tip, thews!

Now the fun part, putting in the new quart conversion kit...stay tuned!

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Old 10-16-2022, 07:52 PM
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I’ve done lots of those quartz kits. Very easy job but the key is pushing really hard on washers when reassembling. They recommend using a small piece of 2x4 in it for the power stud to sit steady and level as you press the three washers onto the studs. I tried without this a few times but now use a wood base as they recommend. Not installing those washers tight enough leads to the adjustment knob not engaging properly

Another good point to obey religiously is to always install the hour and minute hands at exactly 12. If not you likely end of with the hour hand half way between to numbers when the minute hand as at 12.

Last tip, 69 clocks use the red gears in the kit and the kit number is I-3035 from ISI

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I’ve done lots of those quartz kits. Very easy job but the key is pushing really hard on washers when reassembling. They recommend using a small piece of 2x4 in it for the power stud to sit steady and level as you press the three washers onto the studs. I tried without this a few times but now use a wood base as they recommend. Not installing those washers tight enough leads to the adjustment knob not engaging properly

Another good point to obey religiously is to always install the hour and minute hands at exactly 12. If not you likely end of with the hour hand half way between to numbers when the minute hand as at 12.

Last tip, 69 clocks use the red gears in the kit and the kit number is I-3035 from ISI
Noted on the read gears and 2x4. I watched the video today, but had too many speakers to build to devote the time to starting the rebuild. After I get back from cardio rehab tomorrow morning I'm going to dive in before I have to pack up a bunch of orders to ship. They did ship me the 3035 kit.

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Multiple snafus but it’s in the test mode now and keeping perfect time an hour and 10 minutes into it.

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Old 10-17-2022, 09:33 PM
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I usually let it run overnight and test it with a little tapping to make sure the internal ground (the spring copper forked strip the gets ground from the housing) has good contact through the painted housing.

Talking ground it is really important that the ground strap that connects the clock assembly to the rest of the dash bezel is solid at both ends. The 69 dashboards across the 69 Pontiac lines are inherently poorly ground.

Coincidentally today I used the exact same clock kit on a Catalina im working on (B and F bodies use the same kit, the A and G cars share a different kit).

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Five hours in and still keeping perfect time, I compared it to my FitBit and my iPhone. Fingers crossed that it keeps this up till the morning. Again, thanks for all of the help with this!

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Old 10-18-2022, 08:04 AM
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I have a box full of clocks and those kits, I counted to empty boxes and this one was the 17th so I’ve gotten the back of this. I have a car I did the clock conversion in 1993 and it still works perfect!

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Old 10-18-2022, 12:41 PM
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16 hours later and it's still right on time. Glad I could get this dialed in. Now I can install my new gauge package from New Vintage USA along with the rebuilt clock and be "almost correct".


I'm going to have Pete Serio fix up my Trans Am stacked gauge package with all new calibrated senders, rebuilt gauges, the original wiring diagram and instructions with pictures and put it up for sale when it's refurbished.

If anyone is interested, let me know.



http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/69bird/69interior1.jpg

If anyone needs close up pics of the TA Stacked gauges just let me know, I can email them to you.

jim@scumbackspeakers.com

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