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I just spent the entire day with a pressure washer underneath the Tran Am. The entire original floors are still covered in their factory red oxide primer with white overspray. Not a speck of rust underneath the car (other than the trunk well but that is standard on any 2nd gen F-body). There was no undercoating so all I was removing was the years of road grime. Just amazing! I found the factory paint marks on the suspension pieces, the part number tags on the coil springs. Even the leaf springs had the part numbers still stenciled on them in white paint. Now I know how archaeologists feel when they unearth a new dinosaur. I will post some detail shots this week after I finish removing 33 years of grease, oil and tar from my entire body. My wife saw me coming near the house and locked the doors. She said that was the dirtiest she has ever seen me in the entire time she has known me. I wore a full rain suit (which is now in the garbage, but still managed to get my face hands and hair totally blackened.) -I looked like a West Virginia coal miner coming home from work!
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:45 PM
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awesome!

PLEASE post those undercarriage pics..im restoring a 70 TA and would like to see how that red oxide looks...seen some restored vrsions but ive heard that the hue the restpo shops are using these days is too dark...like to see how their color compares to your original..

thanks for sharing!

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Old 05-24-2005, 04:29 PM
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Here is the rear underside. As you can see there is white factory overspray on everything.
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Here is the front trans tunnel area. The black stuff is the same body shutz (undercoating as in the rear fenderwells, only it didn't withstand the pressure washer as well.
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Old 05-24-2005, 04:33 PM
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Here is the trans tunnel/shifter hump area looking up from the ground.
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Here is the passenger side view of the front floor area.
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Rear view of the brake and fuel lines above the rear end. All the original GM fuel lines and barke lines are still present (and cracking from age). There is some minor surface rust in the upper area. Ignore the painted rear cover please.
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The passenger side cowl area. This car had the stamped VINs in two locations: above the circular fan cutout and vertically alongside the square heaterbox cutout. A/C equipped cars usually have it by the heaterbox opening and non-A/C cars have it by the circular fan hole. I guess they wanted to be doubly sure they stamped it!
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Driver's side cowl area. Note the big paint run in the flat black paint. That area of paint has pretty much been covered since day 1. The fenders have never been off of this car. It is definitely a flat or very close to flat paint. Not any gloss in it at all.
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Driver's top of cowl with factory blackout.
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Passenger side top of cowl area.
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Passenger side of lower cowl. As you can see, anywhere that there was the factory black seam sealer, the paint did not stick very well when hit by the pressure sprayer (It was not really the high pressure that took the paint off but I think that the paint just did not adhere very well to the rubbery seam sealer, you could pick it off by hand)
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Driver's side front suspension with paint marks intact.
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Rear diferential color codes: orange and green. The yoke had yellow on it.
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Here is a section of the tran tunnel looking up from the ground level. As you can see there is even overspray in this area.
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Hope this helps some of you with your restorations! -Steve

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wow, thanks for the detail steve. these pics will come in real handy to alot of folks i'm sure....

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thats astounding, the fact that car has almost no rust on the underbody.

i notice youre from NJ, im guessing that car is NOT from NJ.

and if it is, it never saw the road between september and may during its life, and sat happily in a garage when not driven.

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Great Detail! Any chance you could shoot a few pics of the fuel and brake lines with the color of the clips in the different locations?

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The clips all seem to be yellow. I will get more photos. The car was a Cailfornia car for the first 25 years of its life and then went to Washington State for several years, then to PA in 2003. It has 114,000 miles and its entire original drivetrain. Other than the pinhole rust in the trunk floor center section, the rest of the car is rather amazing.

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