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Edelbrock Cylinder Heads OK?
Halo, I am comming from Germany. I have buy Edelbrock out of box 87cc Roller camschaft fit Heads from Butler. It Looks like in Factory by boored for Rocker Studs , it was boored to Long.
How to fix that or schoud I send cylinder heads back to Butler. Any Problems here ? Thanks |
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i assume they are all like that. I had a set of 72cc Edelbrock heads and the rocker studs were breaking into the intake ports the same as on your 87cc heads.
The rocker stud threads were all sealed with Teflon paste from Edelbrock. No need to send them back, not an issue.
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1964 Tempest Coupe LS3/4L70E/3.42 1964 Le Mans Convertible 421 HO/TH350/2.56 2002 WS6 Convertible LS1/4L60E/3.23 |
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Das ist für Edelbrock-Köpfe normal, besonders wenn sie portiert wurden.
Das ist für Edelbrock-Köpfe normal, besonders wenn sie portiert wurden.
Wie B-Man gesagt hat, brauchen Sie nur eine Art Versiegelung für die Kipphebel, da sonst Öl in den Einlass gesaugt wird. Viele der gusseisernen Rundkopfköpfe der Fabrik Pontiac hatten das gleiche Problem. Dies ist kein Problem, solange Sie die Gewinde an den Stehbolzen abdichten. Viel Glück! (Du musst google translate lieben .....) |
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Thanks for answers, in 2-3 weeks i will update my 455 4XHeads engine with that package https://butlerperformance.com/i-3078...tegory:1404464
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Very nice looking car.
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66 GTO Nostalgia Super Stock/Street Legal Car 421 CID, stock block, Wenzler Intake, 2- Carter 750 AFB's, 3.90 Gears, Full Factory Interior, Full Exhaust, Stock Suspension 3750LBS 9.77@136.99 Multiple NSCA/NMCA World Champion 66 GTO 389 3x2, 4 speed, 4.33 gear, Montero Red 33K original Miles 67 GTO 2dr Post, 428, Tri Power, 3.55 Gears 80 Trans Am Black SE Y84 W72 WS6 |
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Yes like Mike said very nice car Ivo! Jeff
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Carburetor building & modification services Servicing the Pontiac community over 20 years |
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Love the car - and the wheels compliment it well. The background is nice too!
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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I agree great looking car, love the color, makes me want to ditch my vinyl top and change the color of mine
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71 Goatman Hot Rods & Horsepower.......A diease for which there is no cure. 71 GTO, 463, SD 295 d-port heads, 10.75:1, RPM intake, 502hp/560tq @ the crank, 200r4, 10" Continental convertor, Bullet 234/244 cam, Cliff's Q-Jet, 3:42's w/Eaton True Trac, 5 Power Tours. New performance numbers coming |
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Thanks for compliments. Hi I did not get the idea to translate text with Google and yes, I love my car. After framme off restoration in 2011 with my son, we have made original condition. Only original color was Laurentian green (now it is no. 9005 BMW mottorad color, it changes slightly to orange in sunshine) and the engine is overbored at 0.40inch and we have small performer camshaft installed. We have constantly carried out improvements every year. GTO now has Umi suspension, 2 inch lowering, AGR steering gear and AGR steering pump, 3 inch Pypes exahaust, rear brake discs, Yukon new Posi with, Year One 17 inch rims, Dougs, Powermaster anlaser, Flowkooler water pump, March Setup, Champion 4 Rows cooler, 2X Spal fans and this year is engine in the series.
Has anyone driven Lunati roller camshaft 231/239? |
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Very cool car Ivo! I'm interested to hear how the engine upgrade performs. Are you taking this car on the Autobahn? Engine, brake, and suspension upgrades make sense for that.
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w Ram Air manifolds, HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, T400, 9" w 3.50s 3905lbs 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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Yes we drove on highway. He is perfect, suspension AGR steering gear and brakes are a dream. Only we have to be careful because of Doug headers, there is not much space to floor with 2 inch lowering. Cooling updates (Flowmaster, Champion Radiator and 2 Spals) reduce temperature to 195 ° F in city traffic
Last edited by Ivo; 02-23-2019 at 12:49 PM. |
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They often leave the chips from tapping the holes in the ports, clean the entire head well before installing!
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Some studs are a little longer on the bottom. Definitely use teflon sealant or it will suck oil down them!
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Hello, I have to ask another question in my old thread. I asked here that rocker studs can be seen through intake channel, too long. Two years since I installed my butler setup, I don't have a stable Vacum. Vacum Gauge always oscillates slowly 1 hg. On idle slowly oscillates between 14-15hg and in gear between 11 and 12. Two years ago I tried to find out everything possible and in the end I stopped looking for the cause, I thought it was from camschaft overlap.
Yesterday I removed my carburetor from Intake because my cable to the temperature sensor from El.Fans is under manifold and I want to change my fan control. I got the idea to put pressure on the intake manifold. I solved all rockers by closing the intake valves. BANG .... Three studs have pretty big leaks. I can see bubbles forming around studs. Sorry for long talk, my question is can this also cause vacum leak the idle is unstable? Should I use ARP paste for sealing or Teflon tape is enough? Thanks Ivo |
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I use Permatex Ultra Grey RTV on the rocker stud threads that go into the intake ports and haven't had any issues with leaks. Because of the size of your cam, you will always have some vacuum gauge bounce and it's not an indication of anything wrong.
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1967 Firechicken, 499", Edl heads, 262/266@0.050" duration and 0.627"/0.643 lift SR cam, 3.90 gear, 28" tire, 3550#. 10.01@134.3 mph with a 1.45 60'. Still WAY under the rollbar rule. |
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Beautiful car! I would use paste.
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I used paste on my two sets.
I also like the color, almost reminds me a '88 Firebird GTA color.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Question, 3rd picture. The background behind your car. What is it, where ? |
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If you can source the product, this is the best "paste":
Loctite/Permatex "PST" which comes in several varieties: 565, 567, and my personal favorite, 592. There's also a semi-solid "stick" but I don't remember the number. https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Threa...s%2C223&sr=8-2 |
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Ivo , tell us more about the background buildings in these 2 pictures.
Are they old military fortifications from WW2 ? Where are they and what were they used as during their operation ? Your GTO is a work of art and the color fits it Very Well ! |
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