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Old 11-26-2020, 11:03 AM
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I have not seen this type of dual exhaust. looks very well done, are the dual pipe entry into the mufflers for better flow or for a quieter exhaust? on a 67 firebird on ebay. a very high end 67 firebird I might add.


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Interesting...........never saw that before

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I can give a tinkers damn about performance with my 69 bird now!I just want it quiet!My latest combo SUCKS and I would be will to try that system!Tom

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Muffler used:

Screamer Twintronic Muffler made by Quick Times Performance


https://www.summitracing.com/parts/q...IaAmVcEALw_wcB


I deleted my previous post. I now believe this is the muffler being used on that car.

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Example here:

https://www.borla.com/products/speci...t__400498.html

This brings up the question, is a transverse mufflers cfm flow similar to or the same as the same length muffler with the same size single in / single out.


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that's a high dollar muffler. i'm very curious about flow. its gotta make it quieter I would think wrapping back into the other inlet. wouldn't that cause a backpressure though? sure would like to hear that system got a feeling it sounds spectacular.


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The mufflers look like they are made for one in a two out.When the car was done looks like they reversed it and made it 2 in and one out?Tom

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Old 11-26-2020, 01:18 PM
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If you want to hear that car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq0HklrXOM4

Notice what "Mr MAN BUN" says about it being a Pontiac !


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I didn't see it had a video attached. I like the exhaust but it did seem a bit to raspy and wasn't all that quiet. my dynomax ultra flows are quieter but i'm not using headers.

but good Greif what a punk baggin a pontiac! so your doing a video for your car dealer trying to sell a car and you throw shade on that very car. what a goof.

I quit watching right after he started baggin............

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On the car sellers link it states "Quick Time Performance 2.75” Stainless Steel Exhaust." I looked at the Quick Times website and did not find a exhaust system that looked like the picture. However If you enlarge the picture of the cars underside you will note the stamped logo on the mufflers is from Quick Times. Same as the one on the Summit link.


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digesting that hod rod article/pics on your Trans Am. holy smokes its like that splitter Trans Am but better. awesome. man thats what i'm talkin about.

enjoy the humor there. did you really buy em fish and chips and a beer?

how fast is the car now? off topic I know here.

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Tom will like them open


( JUDGE3- Thanks. Yes on fish and chips and a beer ! Old magazine article, the 505 has been thru different changes. Now with direct port fuel injection. The performance indicated was for 660 HP, but I recently changed cams to reduce intensity in the valvetrain. It's now a 625-630 HP engine. No intentions to track test it )


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Steve,look at the pic and then the QT website.The muffler is made for a single in and one coming out for the exhaust and one for the cut out.When they did the car they rev it and used the cut out for another inlet?Tom

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Tom, I think you are correct in that the exhaust cut out function seems to be eliminated when they installed the mufflers on the car, at least to me when you enlarge the picture of the cars exhaust system. And when you do you can see the large letters QTT on the mufflers and their logo. Again, here it is on the Summit website:


https://static.summitracing.com/glob....jpg?rep=False

On their website for the cut out... "Floating flange design for optimal valve positioning". They just removed it for the car.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE

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Well I enlarged the cars underside picture again and now I'm not sure they eliminated the cut out.


https://quicktimeperformance.com/i-3...l#!year%3D2007
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Your right!Weird setup.Oh well back to hating my car!Tom

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"Inappropriate muffler selection and installation (which appears so for better than 90 percent of cases) will, in a very effective manner, negate most of the advantages of system length/diameter tuning. The question at this point is what does it take to get it right and how much power are we likely to loose if the system is optimal? The quick and dirty answers to these questions are 'not much' and "zero."

Exhaust Science Demystified
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/exhaust/0505phr-exh/

Even if loss of a power is not chief in importance, at least we might consider no big losses in the name of "quiet".

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The mufflers look like they are made for one in a two out.When the car was done looks like they reversed it and made it 2 in and one out?Tom
Yes put on backwards..but it does make sense in a way..no need for turn downs. Use the same tailpipe..somebody was thinking outside of the box.

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This just works in a similar fashion as some of the new cars do, like some of the new vettes for instance.

It's just a full exhaust system that is able to bypass the mufflers when you flip the switch.

Think of it as a modern design of the old Pontiac VOE option in 1970.

They are installed correctly. When closed the muffler works as a Typical offset inlet/offset outlet design. When opened the muffler turns into a straight through design (no baffling) and exits out the tailpipes.

It's neat and all that, but I personally just prefer having the electric cutouts on their own path, without running through the complete tailpipe system. It's cheaper, louder, and likely works better anyway if you're looking for HP.

We have QTP cutouts on 2 cars. They make a nice product.

DMH on this one
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Yep it’s just a dump that sends it out the tailpipe instead of under the car.

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