[STALLION]

Originally Posted by Travis Q

I must have missed something....

Travis, you missed the guy that designed the first after market block, I am surprised he did not commit suicide or sue anybody with all the bad ink he got.
I think my team should be on the fast list.
We always ran faster than the Chev's in T/S with equal sized motors or bigger and we raced for 2 seasons, with out major problems.
What a great crew and driver I had!!!!
What does it mean if you (I don't mean you and Rodney) just come out for Norwalk and never race until the next years Norwalk race. You break at that race and don't race again. You don't even have a class or # on your car. What kind of race car is that???
Will be pretty hard to sell those motors or parts , don't you think!!!
Maurice

[spartazoo]

Originally Posted by Travis Q

Scott,
In my opinion, both of those examples have taken the design of the Pontiac engine (cylinder head and engine block, specifically) to a new level. Has it been problem free? Definitely not....there are still issues to work out for sure. It takes tons of time and many, many laps to figure out a brand new design. I applaud them for thinking outside the box, and wish them success in their efforts.

Again, my point isn't about what a person or group has done in terms of performance, but what they are doing to push the evolution of the Pontiac engine forward that matters most to me.

This is possibly the most mature, pragmatic, and objective response I have ever read on this forum. Nice!

[David Holmberg]

Travis, I agree with you 99% on this.

I will add, that when Bruce Maichle brought BES into the Pontiac world things changed in the 3000lb + NA racing. Langer took over from Bruce, along with Rex and now many others. That original meeting changed Pontiac racing forever.

[Jack Gifford]

Originally Posted by Travis Q

... The KRE hemi heads are limited in terms of cam overlap because of the valve angles from what I understand...

It's difficult for me to imagine the cam profiles involved to create valve collision. I don't know the lift values for the KRE hemi heads (for collision), but they looked to me to be improved in that respect over "old" hemi design, like my M/T heads (60 degrees between valves). And I recently mocked up mine specifically for that purpose- my valves would need to be simultaneously open .230" each. The cam profiles I've chosen (aiming for peak HP @ 9,000 RPM) won't come anywhere near colliding my valves. Yes, this will be a small engine (182 c.i. four-cylinder) with small valves (2.030", max.lift .650"). But even for an engine of, say, 600 c.i. with large valves (~2.400", ~1" lift), I have trouble picturing both valves being open (during overlap) that much (or maybe more on the KRE?).

[3fastgtos]

What does it mean if you (I don't mean you and Rodney) just come out for Norwalk and never race until the next years Norwalk race. You break at that race and don't race again. You don't even have a class or # on your car. What kind of race car is that???
Will be pretty hard to sell those motors or parts , don't you think!!!
Maurice[/QUOTE]

I guess that's my race car. No class or number for me at Norwalk.

[Elarson]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

What does it mean if you (I don't mean you and Rodney) just come out for Norwalk and never race until the next years Norwalk race. You break at that race and don't race again. You don't even have a class or # on your car. What kind of race car is that???
Will be pretty hard to sell those motors or parts , don't you think!!!
Maurice

I guess that's my race car. No class or number for me at Norwalk.[/QUOTE]


You're #1. What other numbers do you need?

Eric

[johnta1]

I must have missed something....

Langer must have erased his post.

..........

[LiL Jack]

Don't leave out the Eiffel Tower CV1 intake!

That's going to be a game changer!!

LOL

[STALLION]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

What does it mean if you (I don't mean you and Rodney) just come out for Norwalk and never race until the next years Norwalk race. You break at that race and don't race again. You don't even have a class or # on your car. What kind of race car is that???
Will be pretty hard to sell those motors or parts , don't you think!!!
Maurice

I guess that's my race car. No class or number for me at Norwalk.[/QUOTE]

3fastgtos and Eric, I was not talking about you guys. I am pretty sure that Travis and Rodney know who I would be talking about, (_ _ _). I am not sure I would know you guys or you guys know me, if you guys would know me, it only be from Norwalk. I would not know if you guys(3fastgtos and Eric) had a business that sold motors and or parts.
Sorry for confusing some of you guys out there.
On a lot of these threads and posts you have to know the story behind them and be able to read between the lines.
I have had some good conversations with Curt and if you read all of his posts carefully you still might not know what he is exactly talking about.
Again sorry, Maurice
PS, this hoilday time off is sure getting me in some trouble!!!

[3fastgtos]

Stallion, no need to apologize. I was just kind of stating that there's no class I can run in( and that I left broke) I've always wanted to run in the Frantic Four so since 2013 was my first time ever at Norwalk I was looking forward to it. Then I get there and the rules say that I have to have doors. I totally understand the rules and should have read them before I went. That being said I still had fun and got to pit right next to Travis and Rodney (thanks Rodney, we're looking forward to grilling some more steaks for you guys).
I'm now looking forward to some side by side action with The Boss Bird.
SD

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Don't leave out the Eiffel Tower CV1 intake!

That's going to be a game changer!!

LOL

Exactly what this thread is about.

[Elarson]

Agree Stallion...no need to apologize. I know who you were referring to. Steve and I took it in another direction to lighten things up.

Eric

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Don't leave out the Eiffel Tower CV1 intake!

That's going to be a game changer!!

LOL

OHMYGODTHATJUSTHAPPENED!!!

[twooldgoats]

Originally Posted by STALLION

PS, this hoilday time off is sure getting me in some trouble!!!

Isn't that what the off season is for?

Jim

[jdw_poncho]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Don't leave out the Eiffel Tower CV1 intake!

That's going to be a game changer!!

LOL

LOL

There it is..... I wondered how long it would take.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by jdw_poncho

LOL

There it is..... I wondered how long it would take.

Someday they will figure out it's not an intake problem!

[jdw_poncho]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Not an exact copy.

KRE had their Warp6 out (in billet like yours) for what 6 years?
They started casting them for what 2 years?

They designed, modified, researched, and tested them for about as long.

Most of these guys "poo-poo'd" them and basically tried to get them to go under.

Then you CNC a set of canted valve heads and they think it is fantastic.

Just sad they would do this to a Pontiac vendor and Pontiac innovators just because of a 'grudge'.

After torching a hole in my e-heads I looked around at all possible options that I could find. I wanted a solid or a billet head. Couldn find a solid e-head and no response from edlebrock.

Tigers could be made solid but I was trying to get away from standard pontiac exh ports.

Tried to see if I could get a set of RAV's billets from Elarson. I understand why they wouldnt sell.

Never heard of the company that Jack used so I missed the boat on that one or I would have been game.

I think Roland offer a billet cv1 after i purchased my cv-1's.

KRE wouldnt respond to two of my emails and I left a message to discuss their heads with no call back. I think this was option was the best possible option for me but they didnt respond

This thread is a prime example why I dont care to get on here anymore. Travis made the mistake of trying to compliment advances and it "seems" like some took offense they didnt get on the "list". Others just whine and moan.

For me to be competitive "I believe" Im getting my engine sorted out then switching to BBC. Much easier to get support and buy parts that have some data behind them.

[jdw_poncho]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Someday they will figure out it's not an intake problem!

Whatever make you feel good sunshine... LOL

[STALLION]

Originally Posted by Elarson

Agree Stallion...no need to apologize. I know who you were referring to. Steve and I took it in another direction to lighten things up.

Eric

WOW, Eric and Steve, you guys got to be really nice guys to have the balls to try and lighten things up.
You sure you guys are on the right web site.
Thanks guys, Happy New Year to you and your families.
Maurice

[Blued and Painted]

Brake time!
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