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Old 02-07-2023, 01:36 PM
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The blank one is from Eric White's book.
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That's correct.

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I can't recall ever seeing another one like your 1A numbered Bsheet that says
Manifest Through Zero Defects
That phrase and the alpha/numeric 1A are first time I can recall seeing either of those particulars.

Do you know where it came from ?
Or how it was obtained ?
Doesn't look like one that was found hidden within the car itself.
No I don't. The memory fades but more than likely downloaded.

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Old 02-07-2023, 04:17 PM
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Another giblet that can be useful
On these PMD Bsheets , next to the Engine Code box
Is Pnt Str
A is for Black GTO decals
C is for White
If the car had 494 Rally Stripes , they would be that same color too.

If they used Red decals in 68 ( I can't remember ) it would be R

The april gold and verdoro both show C - White

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.......BHC for the 68 GTO Ram2 cars -..... the whole ball game was dependent on the total content amount equalling the Label Price to the penny.
That was the way to separate 347 code RamOne from 347 code RamTwo
Since they carried different prices for their engine option.

I would share those forms with you if I had access to those files.....
Engine Code evolution from WT--WS--XP seems obvious enough to a point.
Starter from 55--53 doesn't discern HO from Ram Air.
What about the Air Cleaner code 826 vs 626?
There are "Special" code boxes; maybe some of those point to RA II?

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Old 02-07-2023, 05:16 PM
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Nope
Nothing on a BHC will reveal - in undisputed terms - whether the 347 is for Ram1 or Ram2
Except breaking down all the content ,,,, and leaving the price for 347 blank.
Then you see which option cost fits flush
And then you know.

To save arguments , we did establish a breaking point concerning build weeks and billing dates.
But the ones around the cusp of those parameters can fluctuate.
And naturally everyone wants to see pure solid proof defacto - regardless.
So the price crunch method has the final say.

With a Bsheet , there would be no question about it.
Ram1 and Ram2 use different block codes , and those are spelled out plainly on the Bsheet.

The problem is very few cars have their Bsheets
So it has to be done from a BHC
And the price crunch gives the answer

I can't even remember the price points now
But its a couple-few hundred bucks difference between Ram1 and Ram2


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I have done a full breakdown on content and price on every known Ram2 GTO and Firebird that have been brought to our attention , and documented them.
To the penny with all work/math openly shown each time.

And some Ram1 cars too

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Old 02-07-2023, 06:06 PM
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The finished product resembles a "nothing fancy" home made window sticker.
Except I include every single content code from every single box whether it has a cost or not.
Full breakdown with descriptions and costs for each item.
No stone unturned
No omissions
No BS

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Here is a link to some of it:


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Here is an example of what it takes

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Here is the shakedown / breakdown on The Boss's VooDoo Deuce


68 GTO Ram Air II - Automatic
QQ VooDoo Green / 23 Black Buckets
Built at Pontiac Plant
Build Date
Invoice date 5 / 28 /68
From 21 / To 34
Zone 08 / Dealer 219
Marte Pontiac - Columbus, Ohio


347 Ram Air .......................................... blank
351 THM 400 Auto ...............................236.97
361 STT HD Posi ...................................63.19
37S Axle 4.33 ........................................ n/c
382 AM Radio P.Btn ................................61.09
394 Stereo Tape Player .........................133.76
444 Rally Gauges & Tach .........................84.26
453 Rally 2 Wheels .................................84.26
472 Console Automatic ...........................68.46
501 Power Steer ...................................94.79
621 Ride & Handle ...................................4.21
71R/72C G77x14 Redlines...........................n/c
754 Front Shoulder Belts ...........................n/c


Option Total .........................................830.99
Destination ............................................41.50
Base Price ..........................................3101.00

Sub Total ...........................................3973.49

Ram Air II ........................................... 473.94

TOTAL ............................................. 4447.43

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Label Price ........................................4447.43.


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68 GTO Ram Air II - Automatic
RR Red - 25 Red Interior
Built at Pontiac Plant
Build Date
Invoice Date = 6 / 05 / 68
To 21 / From 21
Zone 07 Dealer 735
Simpson Pontiac - Southgate Michigan

347 Ram Air .......................................... blank
351 THM 400 Auto................................. 236.97
361 STT HD Posi..................................... 63.19
37S Axle Ratio 4.33.................................. n/c
414 HideAways ......................................52.66
424 L.H. Remote Mirror .............................9.48
434 Hood Tach ......................................63.19
453 Rally 2 Wheels .................................84.26
476
(472 Console Auto..................................68.46
(474 Clock n/c - incl with 484......................0
484 Gauges & Clock ...............................50.55
494 Rally Stripes................................... 10.53
503
(501 Pwr Steer .....................................94.79
(502 Pwr Brakes ...................................42.13
521 Front Disc Brakes ............................63.19
71R/72C G77 Redlines...............................n/c
754 Shoulder Belts ................................. n/c


Options Total...................................... 839.40
Destination ......................................... 13.25
Base Price ....................................... 3101.00

Sub Total ........................................ 3953.65

Ram Air II ......................................... 473.94

TOTAL............................................ 4427.59

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Label Price ..................................... 4427.59.

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