THE LOBBY A gathering place. Introductions, sports, showin' off your ride, birthday-anniversary-milestone, achievements, family oriented humor.

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-05-2022, 12:52 PM
jreynolds's Avatar
jreynolds jreynolds is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Graham, TX
Posts: 5
Default School me on Norwalk

So my dad and I finally pulled the trigger to go to this for the first time. I have the comfort inn booked which looks about 10 minutes from summit motorsports park. We're dragging an enclosed trailer to pick up a bunch of repro sheet metal that we bought from Ames. I've been to a lot of swap meets before but is there anything that we need to be sure to pencil in our schedule while we're there? Really just looking for general advice on how to attend. Friday and Saturday will be our big days and planning to head back to Texas on Sunday. I assume it is best to do the swap meet in the mornings and the races in the afternoon?

Also we are pretty good with walking but should we reserve a golf cart? I saw that was a thing.

  #2  
Old 08-05-2022, 02:11 PM
Radman's Avatar
Radman Radman is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tippecanoe, OH
Posts: 746
Default

It will probably be the largest swap meets you have ever attended. Great show car field, and great drag racing. Swap meet area starts at roughly the 1/8 mile marker and goes to the end of the stopping area, 4 to 7 rows deep for that entire distance. Show car area is double that area. You will see a little bit of everything.

__________________
If you built it, drive it.
red 62 Tempest total stock restoration.
white 62 Tempest modified, 61 389 Tri-Power, and a conventional drive train.
The Following User Says Thank You to Radman For This Useful Post:
  #3  
Old 08-05-2022, 02:17 PM
Bills Auto Works's Avatar
Bills Auto Works Bills Auto Works is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Wakeman, Ohio
Posts: 281
Default

You will love it!!!


Don't overthink or over stress! Plenty of parking & you can easily walk back & forth between the show, swap meet & races! Unless you are elderly or morbidly obese, you do not need a cart! A great day of walking maybe a couple of miles (if that) total! I walk it multiple times over the weekend seeing friends, customers & vendors from all over the country in my boots! This is my home track (live 13 miles away) & everybody has a great time!!!! If you see me....say hey!

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...closed.614419/
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	294984677_1695395564147559_3456204250137126755_n.jpg
Views:	174
Size:	64.2 KB
ID:	595815  

__________________
Your QUALITY Pontiac Transporter

Bills' Auto Works Est 1983 & still going strong!


1955 Nash Ambassador Custom Lemans
1957 Chieftan 2dr HT
1964 Grand Prix
1966 Catalina Conv. 421
1966 Ambassador DPL 2dr HT
1966 Ambassador Cust. 2 DR HT
1967 Marlin
1967 Toronado
1973 Nova Full Chassis Car
1992 Jag XJS Conv
1992 Jag XJS Coupe
2007 Cad XLR-V Supercharged Roadster
The Following User Says Thank You to Bills Auto Works For This Useful Post:
  #4  
Old 08-05-2022, 02:39 PM
tom s tom s is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: long beach ca usa
Posts: 17,946
Default

get a cart!Tom

The Following User Says Thank You to tom s For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 08-05-2022, 03:10 PM
sdbob sdbob is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Latrobe,Pa. USA
Posts: 2,243
Default

Yes get a cart but probably not at this late date. Dornans golf carts. Bring a bicycle. There is a lot to "see". Ice cream usually has a long line. It is good. If you want a event shirt get by Friday am to make sure of size. The shirts are on the pit side behind grandstands near bathrooms.

The Following User Says Thank You to sdbob For This Useful Post:
  #6  
Old 08-05-2022, 04:24 PM
1965gp 1965gp is online now
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 776
Default

I personally hate the golf carts. Unless there is a reason you can’t walk that far then I understand it. They just get in the way and people leave them parked all over the place.

The best part of this swap meet is that everything is for our cars. Usually one out of every 20 spaces will have something that fits a Pontiac. In this case you want it all. There will be some rare stuff for sale that only seems to make it to this swap meet.

As stated you will see some of everything. Lots of high end builds, historic race cars and then a bunch of great drivers. I wish I was driving back from TX. I usually fly up so it limits what I can buy.

The Following User Says Thank You to 1965gp For This Useful Post:
  #7  
Old 08-05-2022, 06:17 PM
Half-Inch Stud's Avatar
Half-Inch Stud Half-Inch Stud is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: BlueBell, PA or AL U.S.A.
Posts: 17,681
Default

Bring a hat that keeps your head cooler in direct Sun. And a wad of cash.

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Half-Inch Stud For This Useful Post:
  #8  
Old 08-05-2022, 06:50 PM
61-63's Avatar
61-63 61-63 is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Sour Lake, Texas
Posts: 2,238
Default

Get a cart and go up and down the pit area as well as the swap area. The racers bring stuff to sell and place items on their trailers and/or on tables in their pit area and sometimes you will find some rare items there. If it is something heavy it can be a pita carrying it back to the other side.

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to 61-63 For This Useful Post:
  #9  
Old 08-05-2022, 07:00 PM
Sirrotica's Avatar
Sirrotica Sirrotica is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Catawba Ohio
Posts: 6,571
Default

That property is approximately 200 acres, and yes you can walk it as I did the first 5 years or so I attended. If you want to spend all your time walking, that's fine, but I usually attended 2-3 days previously, and this year as well as last year I probably will only attend 1 day, so if you have limited time, you don't want to be on foot, lots of people ride bicycles too.

This has been my wife and my mode of transportation at Norwalk for the last 12 years, or so:



At this late date the carts may already be sold out, they usually are. They will let you bring your own cart through the gate if you already own one, but you're probably not going to have room to bring one from Texas, and return with it after picking up your purchases.....

__________________
Brad Yost
1973 T/A (SOLD)
2005 GTO
1984 Grand Prix

100% Pontiacs in my driveway!!! What's in your driveway?

If you don't take some of the RACETRACK home with you, Ya got cheated

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Sirrotica For This Useful Post:
  #10  
Old 08-05-2022, 07:39 PM
tom s tom s is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: long beach ca usa
Posts: 17,946
Default

Be at the ice-cream when it opens!Beg borrow or steal a cart!I would NEVER go there again without a cart!Did it ONCE,ONCE!Tom

The Following User Says Thank You to tom s For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 08-05-2022, 08:15 PM
Jeff Hamlin's Avatar
Jeff Hamlin Jeff Hamlin is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Beach side of Virginia
Posts: 9,060
Default

I agree with NOT needing a cart.
The swap area is large but well laid out.
Not the biggest I've attended but yes largest ALL Pontiac hands down.
As mentioned cart rentals are likely sold out and if you bring your own there is a fee.

It's a lot of walking but good for the soul
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SWAP A.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	81.0 KB
ID:	595844  

__________________
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my grandfather did, in his sleep.
Not screaming like the passengers in his car.
The Following User Says Thank You to Jeff Hamlin For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 08-05-2022, 08:44 PM
sdbob sdbob is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Latrobe,Pa. USA
Posts: 2,243
Unhappy

Weve gone everyear except first. Walked alot from side to side even with Ames 10 passenger golf carts helping.its bigger seems every year. Our ages 74, arthritis has caught up to us. So we rent carts.
Ames has regular running 10 passenger golf carts- buses-to run you around. They have regular stops. It's nice. However if you are a racer and you are called up to race,and you are on show side looking around, its hectic to not have a personal cart. Ames has 'warm up' carts in am,with coffee and I think hot tea with donuts. After noon they have cool down carts cold water,tea I think and cookies. Ames has always been very very generous. Talked to Steve many times about his contributions,being thankful. I've tried removing scholling face couldnt should be happy face.


Last edited by sdbob; 08-05-2022 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Spelling.
The Following User Says Thank You to sdbob For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 08-05-2022, 10:00 PM
MidnightAuto's Avatar
MidnightAuto MidnightAuto is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NY
Posts: 439
Default

First time for me last year. Did not have a cart first day and was bummed. To go all through the racer side and then around to swap meet is no small walk. Lugging purchases requires a golf cart. Day 2 I put a was of money in front of Doran’s and they let me use a test model they were selling. Saved me. Was able to buy two convo pros in race area and drag radials in swap area. Carted all to my truck in parking lot. Was perfect. U don’t want to waste time walking. And it can be hot.

The Following User Says Thank You to MidnightAuto For This Useful Post:
  #14  
Old 08-06-2022, 02:50 PM
Old Goat Racer's Avatar
Old Goat Racer Old Goat Racer is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sparta, ILLINOIS
Posts: 3,363
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Hamlin View Post
I agree with NOT needing a cart.
The swap area is large but well laid out.
Not the biggest I've attended but yes largest ALL Pontiac hands down.
As mentioned cart rentals are likely sold out and if you bring your own there is a fee.

It's a lot of walking but good for the soul
What is the fee for bringing your own golf cart ?

Also did Linders lot ever open up at noon on Thursday ?

__________________

3 Generations of "Beach Boys Racing" !

Everybody knows somthin.
Nobody knows everything !


1st time on a dragstrip, 1964. Flagstart !

"Thanks for the entertainment."

"Real Indians Don't Wear Bowties"

Last edited by Old Goat Racer; 08-06-2022 at 03:21 PM.
  #15  
Old 08-06-2022, 03:21 PM
form74's Avatar
form74 form74 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Glen Ellyn, Illinois
Posts: 1,769
Default

I read somewhere that if you were a spectator and bring your golf cart and it’s 100 bucks.

If I read it right that doesn’t apply to racersWho have their own golf cart

It was on the Pontiac national page somewhere

On another note my credit card got charged today for my golf cart I rented

__________________
74 Formula
469, 6X-4's, 72 Intake, Ramair Manifolds.
3 inch exhaust with x-pipe
Custom Roller Cam, 1.52 Roller Rockers
Quadrajet done by Cliff
3:42 gears


12.075 @ 112.70
12.092 @ 112.43
12.128 @ 111.71

  #16  
Old 08-06-2022, 04:33 PM
Sirrotica's Avatar
Sirrotica Sirrotica is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Catawba Ohio
Posts: 6,571
Default

Here is the new charge for spectators bringing their own carts:

Quote:
Spectator or Trailered Golf cart's will be charged $100 each at the gate. A form and waiver of liability will need to be filled out. The vehicle will be identified with a unique sticker.
Vehicles that are not the standard size of a golf cart, may not be allowed in the facility.
Please call Super Duty Promotions (567) 227-9011.
This will not apply to a personal mobility vehicle or to a racer's pit vehicle.
This may sway me to stay home, not because I want to, that $100 bill for one day attendance is cost prohibitive in my budget. I haven't missed any of the events since the late 90s, but an extra $100 to bring my own cart for one day, may be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I found this last night on the website, and I'm having second thoughts about just staying home.........

__________________
Brad Yost
1973 T/A (SOLD)
2005 GTO
1984 Grand Prix

100% Pontiacs in my driveway!!! What's in your driveway?

If you don't take some of the RACETRACK home with you, Ya got cheated


Last edited by Sirrotica; 08-06-2022 at 04:40 PM.
  #17  
Old 08-06-2022, 04:49 PM
72projectbird's Avatar
72projectbird 72projectbird is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: N.E Massachusetts
Posts: 1,719
Default

Damn, $100 to bring your own cart?

__________________
"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction"

1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed
1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7
1977 Trans Am W72 Y82
1987 Grand National
  #18  
Old 08-06-2022, 05:13 PM
Sirrotica's Avatar
Sirrotica Sirrotica is online now
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Catawba Ohio
Posts: 6,571
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 72projectbird View Post
Damn, $100 to bring your own cart?
That's what I said too......... As they said in the movie "Used Cars", "That's too F'ing high".

My wife, and I forego the motel rates, and planned to attend only Saturday, one day. We can be there in 3 hours from our house, then pay $20 each to get in, so $40 and gasoline. Add another $100 on, and it's just too damn high for one day of using my own cart. One day you need a cart just to see everything. I doubt we would be there even 8 hours. I have a call into SD Promotions to see if there will be a breakdown if you're only going to buy a one day pass, waiting on call back now.

__________________
Brad Yost
1973 T/A (SOLD)
2005 GTO
1984 Grand Prix

100% Pontiacs in my driveway!!! What's in your driveway?

If you don't take some of the RACETRACK home with you, Ya got cheated


Last edited by Sirrotica; 08-06-2022 at 05:22 PM.
  #19  
Old 08-06-2022, 11:26 PM
stevesbirds stevesbirds is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2
Default

If you paid to exhibit a car, your hike from swap meet to stash point is sort of manageable. You can get over to the parking fields fairly direct too. A pull cart, flea market style fold would be good. I use the Ames shuttles for big stuff.

You will run out of time. I ALWAYS run out of time. If you allow 1 day, less road time to get there, yiu will be sorry. As I got so deep into this event, the race side really peaked my interest as a car builder. Invaluable knowledge and great people willing to talk (when they aren't in the heat of a race time). Take pictures, tons and tons. Your brain will be melted down, this is huge sensory overload.

It's like a candy store, like that amazing one in downtown Omaha. Sucks you in with so much to see. There is no equal to Tri Power Nats.
1) Swap meet 6 to 8 hrs, but break away for big heats and super stock heads up against the competitor brands like Mopar, Chevy, Ford. They race only factory components of that period. Internals can be upgraded, but not the period features. Very cool.

2) show field clears out by 6 to 7 PM as folks return to hotels. Saturday has the best collection.
3) see Arnie Beswick. Learn his great legend story.
4) ice cream. It's in your gate pass. It's so much ice cream, and good.
5) many new parts vendors with great info. I always buy up stuff I didn't intend to shop.
6) blow money, you don't get 2 chances. It's totally worth it.

The Following User Says Thank You to stevesbirds For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old 08-07-2022, 10:30 AM
burd's Avatar
burd burd is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MOTOR CITY
Posts: 1,257
Default

I pack a huge cocktail in my Yetti, also I bring a news paper boy paper holder for my finds.

__________________
Burds Parts, No Fisher Price Toys Here

78 YEE 95Q45
Fire
Birds
The Following User Says Thank You to burd For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:54 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017