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Bill H · 04-28-2009, 07:28 PM

I've been gathering up parts to replace the POS Cardone quick ratio box I got a few years ago. Gathered up the following parts.

Pwr.Steering gear box from a 1995 Jeep Cherokee-$46.19
Rag joint from a 1985 Chevy 2 WD Pickup-$11.77
Power steering pump flow control valve from a 1980's chevy Pickup-Free
All I need now is to get my pressure hose changed to metric or have a new one made.
I'll be glad to get rid of that 18 point "U" turn Cardone box.

webfoot · 04-29-2009, 02:46 AM

Where did you get that box for that price?

Or is it a junkyard score and you restored it?

Bill H · 04-29-2009, 09:28 AM

Webfoot,
I got the parts from Pick Your Part and Pick N' Pull in the Oakland area. Skinned a few knuckles on the gear box getting it off. There a quite a few to choose from, I got the newest stuff I could find.

webfoot · 04-29-2009, 11:23 AM

Nice score, I've heard the jeep boxes are an all around better unit, aside from the faster ratio the steering feels much nicer. I would like to step up to one but most all the vehicles around here got scrapped last year.

Bill H · 04-29-2009, 09:02 PM

Webfoot,
I saw another box yesterday while getting my rag joint. It's on a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the engine removed, the steering box was unbolted from the frame but still attached by the center link and pitman arm, would be easy to take off. It had an MN code stamped on the end cap. The Cherokee had about 256,000 miles on it. I don't think it would be cost effective for me to pull it off and send it to you (They are heavy) but if you are desperate I would help you out.

shineybike · 04-30-2009, 08:26 AM

Good job. this is a nice upgrade. I vote for new hoses. I did one new and the other used conversion fittings. Should have gone new with both, it's cleaner and fewer connections mean less chance for a leak. I love the feel of the new steering.

webfoot · 05-01-2009, 04:40 PM

Yeah, those would be spendy to ship! If I ever feel like another project I'll probably try to find another one local. What are the best years to snag these from?

Bill H · 05-01-2009, 09:09 PM

Webfoot, save this link it has a lot of good information on what is required.
Read all 3 articles.
Jeep Grand Cherokee 1992-1996.
I've checked and the ones listed by the AL code seem to have a 2.2 turns, the one I got has just a little over 3 turns but has the correct amount of turn radius. Check out the spread sheet for info. on other sources but if you have an "A" body get one with at least 43.5* travel, each direction about 87* total full left to right.

http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref29.html

squidtone · 05-01-2009, 10:42 PM

Guys,
Take a look at Craigslist for dudes parting out cherokees. I see this every couple of weeks: Cherokees being parted out. These guys are more than happy to get something like 25 bucks for the PS box, at least around here (CT). I got a nice box with the pump for 20 dollars. And the guy took it out for me. Couldn't use the pump, but jeez, what a deal.

hobbygto65 · 05-02-2009, 04:46 PM

Were is the code stamped on the box, I have a newer Z28 box but I don't see a code on it?

amcmike · 05-02-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hobbygto65

Were is the code stamped on the box, I have a newer Z28 box but I don't see a code on it?

It's on the bid circular endcap.l Unfortunately it's inked on, so a lot of times it's nearly impossible or flat out impossible to read .

HANDSEL · 05-02-2009, 08:42 PM

Ok if this jeep steering box is so good with 3 turns lock to lock then why is it that you can get a rebuilt steering box from Year-One with 3 turns lock to lock that is a direct bolt in with no adapters for $139? I may be missing something but I don't know. I'd rather have a stock type steering box with the same steering turns.

Bill H · 05-03-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HANDSEL

Ok if this jeep steering box is so good with 3 turns lock to lock then why is it that you can get a rebuilt steering box from Year-One with 3 turns lock to lock that is a direct bolt in with no adapters for $139? I may be missing something but I don't know. I'd rather have a stock type steering box with the same steering turns.

What you are missing is the cost and some other things.
Year One box is $139.00 + $100.00 core charge + shipping 2 directions and the tax.
Also who did the rebuild? If it was Power Steering Services Inc. I would do it in a second.
It has been my experience the most of the re-builders make a one box fits all which doesn't work.
I purchased a rebuilt box that was done by Cardone, the turning radius sucks. As per the email they sent me they build them with a total turning radius of 60 degrees which is OK for maybe a firebird, but sure has hell not a 67 GTO which need the full 87 Degrees. Yet they list the box for both GTO's and Firebirds.
I'm not using adapters, just having metric fitting put on my original hose so the total cost of this swap will be about $70-$75.00. It's an easy cheap upgrade.

Bill H · 05-03-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbygto65

Were is the code stamped on the box, I have a newer Z28 box but I don't see a code on it?

hobbygto65
Look at the second photo of the Car Craft article, it shows where the code is inked on and is a very good tech article on a steering upgrade.
The box I got out of the 95 Jeep Cherokee still had the code on it and was very clear.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ade/index.html

dracowizard · 05-03-2009, 01:10 PM

I'm Glad i stumbled upon this article today as i continusly collect info for doing my 65 project.I've been years preparing to build this car and with much of the info/parts i've aquired....i hope to reduce a lot of headaches during the build and to also gain some of those modern touches that will enhance the car and make it a joy to drive. You guys make it so great to be a part of this forum!

Bill H · 05-06-2009, 04:16 PM

I was planing on getting a new pressure hose or have the fittings changed to metric but the shop I went to today was just trying to cobble some pieces together so I left.
I called Lee Manufacturing Co. down in Sun Valley Ca. and ordered the two inserts that get inserted into the ports/adapt metric to a double flare so I can use my original hoses.

Very nice folks to deal with and very inexpensive + 2 day delivery.

dracowizard · 05-06-2009, 05:48 PM

Bill,is there a website for Lee Manufacturing? I tried google,but just came up with some generic links that don't seem to actually lead to what may be the correct source i'm looking for.I kinda wanted to look over some of these adapter fittings as i'd like to figure if i'd like to adapt or just re-fit hoses. Any info/links would be nice.Thanks,DeWayne

Bill H · 05-06-2009, 07:12 PM

Here is their number, Tom's wife usually answers quickly and very nice to do business with.

818-768-0371
I don't know of a good Web Site.

Tom makes these adapters and if he says they will work with the original hoses I believe it, he is very well respected in the power steering world. Attached photos from Car Craft Article. The inserts are $4.00 each plus tool to install.

dracowizard · 05-06-2009, 09:05 PM

Thanks Bill.This could helpa lot with the decision of the steering options for my 65 project.

Bill H · 05-06-2009, 09:06 PM

dracowizard,
If you are working on a 65 be sure to read the other steering coupling/shaft requirements here,
http://www.chevelles.com/techref/ftecref29.html.

You may not want to alter your steering shaft as required for 64,65,66.

If you have the $$ and time talk to these guys that do a super re-build so I've been told.

http://www.powersteering.com/

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