[burd]

Well then

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by Norwood

The statement is directed toward Jonny. Describing the lids from 70-72 are not molded and are vinyl covered with a grain pattern matching the early dash. These are very rare indeed to find in good condition let alone NOS.

I was wondering this, then no reply to my last comment made me think the comment wasn't directed to me.

So the soft, covered lids that everyone associates with second gen Firebirds and 1972+ Camaro's are different than the 70-72?

I had previously understood that the earlier ones used vinyl in colour, while the later ones were painted to match the interior - but for all intents they were the same;
I had understood that the distinctly different ones were the latter service replacement hard molded ones.

If you are able, could you please provide images.

IIRC my cousin's '71 TA has/had a vinyl covered lid, but the few like it that I have seen like this looked terrible, as though some corner upholsterer did it, they never quite matched, and almost always coincided with the underside of the lid being actually broken in the middle where the foam was injected.

[burd]

Council box

[unruhjonny]

Counsil =

Console =

[Norwood]

Here is the more common “molded” lid. Deep grain

[Norwood]

Here is the 70-72 lid notice the fine Grain vinyl. These are also not molded but are covered

[unruhjonny]

Neat!!

I'm saving these pictures!

It's too bad I didn't know this eons ago, I have seen a handful of those white molded ones, but every one was broken, and the vinyl covering made me think it was done by an interior shop... poorly.

[chrisp]

These molded ones have the hinge & 2 screws to install , marked 73-81 camaro's & 70-81 firebird no mold seam on the edges & made in USA

[keith k]

Just Dashes will re-cover 70-72 Console lids.

[burd]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

Counsil =

Console =

Lol

[Formulabruce]

Al Knock has done a few "Console" rebuilds. I do not know if they also recover the lids.

[Norwood]

Can anyone give a for sure year for the change from the covered to the molded cover ? This is a 74

[72projectbird]

I never realized there was a difference in lids.

Now I gotta go check mine

[burd]

All the GM ones I e seen Woodrow are covered. The molded crap is like parts place garbage.
The one in black I bought in the 80’s is covered. They just all came in black then.

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by Norwood

Can anyone give a for sure year for the change from the covered to the molded cover ? This is a 74

Hard to nail it down exactly. Need a good survey of late '73 & '74 Bird original owners.
have a good but not perfect early style lid off a console from a late Dec 72 built '73 T/A.

Not sure if late '73 builds had gone to the molded rubbery type lid but would be nice to know.

[Norwood]

Originally Posted by burd

All the GM ones I e seen Woodrow are covered. The molded crap is like parts place garbage.
The one in black I bought in the 80’s is covered. They just all came in black then.

Burd how about a picture of the one on your car.
Had an NOS one that was molded didn’t document the date. It ended up on BentWheelBob’s black car.

[burd]

I’ll have to take a pic