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Old 06-11-2021, 12:18 AM
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Default 1970 Canadian metal protect-o-plate

I was wondering if there are any members here who have their original Canadian issued metal protect-o-plate.

I ask because I would like to see the format for the information on the plate.

I have done some digging, and believe that there were divisional, and assembly plant variations on how the protect-o-plate was punched.

I realize that all 1970 Pontiac's sold in the USA had a plastic card, but am confident at this time that all Canadian sold cars still had the metal card with thier warranty paperwork - and I believe the POP was manufactured at the vehicle assembly plant.

I am also totally open to being proven wrong too.

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I feel like I've just been screamed at!!

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Old 06-11-2021, 10:25 AM
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THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU!!!!!

(How's that for telling Rick? lol)

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 06-11-2021, 02:33 PM
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THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU!!!!!

(How's that for telling Rick? lol)
Yeppers! No doubt. Plus I learned something new. Never considered that the metal plates were still being used. Just ASSumed Canadian exports used plastic like the States did.

So it raises the question,...what did other export markets use?

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Old 06-11-2021, 06:48 PM
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My guess is that any other Pontiac's manufactured in the USA or Canada for other export markets would have just used the same metal plates that Canadian Pontiac's received.

You're not the only one to either miss this, or breeze over it all together;
Rocky did an article on POP's for HPP about a decade ago, and there is no mention of either non-USA differences, or plant to plant differences.

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:58 AM
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We saw these for warranty work, and some regular work up into the 80's . These were originally developed just for legible, and legitimate warranty reimbursement. We put card in like a old credit card holder, put the 3 part "RO" ON TOP, folded top down and rolled it. All 3 sheets were clear.
Back then we had many Canadian Pontiacs in VT, like Maine does today with Brunswick cars.

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Old 06-12-2021, 03:00 PM
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Does anyone know how to make the reversed labels?

The two part HPP article states that a Dymo label maker was used, but I'd have to guess they used a dealer specific wheel for the backwards characters.

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 06-12-2021, 04:48 PM
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Does anyone know how to make the reversed labels?

The two part HPP article states that a Dymo label maker was used, but I'd have to guess they used a dealer specific wheel for the backwards characters.
Doubtful you'd have much luck finding one of the backwards dealership label makers but you never know. I actually have some of the old Dymo tape with the GM logo printed on it but I don't know what car lines or models used that type of label.

You may be able to just use a set of steel letter/number stamps & try to hand stamp the info you need from the back side of the Dymo label tape. It would then be reversed on the topside.....with a little practice it might look ok.

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Old 06-12-2021, 05:08 PM
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Well, maybe they're not hard to find?
It may be a fluke but it looks like one of the reverse label makers just sold on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/17469570912...p2047675.l2557

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We had 2 of them. Never thought much about them. We changed ownership and changed address info too. The COPO and other fleet vehicles saw lots of use of these. I think GMC trucks still had these in the early 70's

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When I bought a 1974 SD-455 T/A 4-speed from the second owner it still had a metal POP , first generated in 1971, that was made out to the 'Eastern Ontario Broadcasting Company' which was a TV or radio utility owned by the family of the original owner. All the Eastern Ontario Broadcasting Co. vehicles (their GMC trucks, vans) were serviced under this metal P.O.P., including the Trans Am.
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