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forged piston prices
hi guys, Im going to build a 73 455 .030 over. been looking at prices and Icon seems to be the most reasonable. I was shocked to see auto-tec 1016.00 at shannons engineering. the Icons are 700.00 with rings at CE. I dont see sealed powers anymore. the 2359 030 doesnt seem to be available. what have you guys seen? thanks, BLUE TA
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SP 2369 has been discontinued. ICON, DSS, ROSS or JE....
I would check with KRE or Butler.
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66 GTO Nostalgia Super Stock/Street Legal Car 421 CID, stock block, Wenzler Intake, 2- Carter 750 AFB's, 3.90 Gears, Full Factory Interior, Full Exhaust, Stock Suspension 3750LBS 9.77@136.99 Multiple NSCA/NMCA World Champion 66 GTO 389 3x2, 4 speed, 4.33 gear, Montero Red 33K original Miles 67 GTO 2dr Post, 428, Tri Power, 3.55 Gears 80 Trans Am Black SE Y84 W72 WS6 |
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For my money the J&E pistons are my pick!
Yup there like 100 bucks each, but they’re aloy allows them to go in with only ,003” clearance so the skirts last longer, rings last longer and the motor is silent on cold start ups!
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Might check with Paul K on this site.He is a Autotec dealer.My last 3 engine he helped me with.Tom
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thanks for the info guys. BLUE TA
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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Yeah I would call and check on the Autotec’s. I paid alot less than that last year.
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i thought most forged pistons were either 2618 or 4032, with 4032 allowing tighter clearances. is there something else that J&E uses? any reason why a 4032 from another outfit wouldn’t have the same clearance requirements as J&E?
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Check Spotts Performance. If the site is current, some good prices.
http://www.spottsperformance.com/Pistons |
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There are some other factors that play into the manufacturer's piston to wall recommendations. Alloy is a major factor. Also the amount of cam shape ground into the skirts, the size and style of the expansion holes, the position of the ring pack and the ring dimensions. Finally, the length and contact area of the skirts. The BME web site has a lengthy discussion of the advantages and disadvantages of 2618 vs 4032 alloy. Bill Miller has a engineering degree with specialties in metallurgy, so I am confident in his views. The Readers Digest version is 2618 is more ductile and crack resistant, far superior in drastic pressure rise applications or detonation prone environments. Such as blown, high loads of nitrous and other very high HP applications. It does require more clearance than 4032. 4032 is a nice option for performance street, and mid-level racing applications. Quiet and easy on cylinder walls. In our Pontiac engines I read this as about 700-800 HP NA engines. Over that, or with a big power adder, I would tend to move into the 2618 alloy. FWIW.
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hi, thanks for all the knowledge and thoughts. BLUE TA
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I don't know how much of a discount I actually get (I have an account), but I bought a set of custom dished AutoTec pistons a few months ago. With rings and shipping, they were MUCH less than $1,000!
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'73 T/A (clone). Low budget stock headed 8.3:1 455, 222/242 116lsa .443/.435 cam. FAST Sportsman EFI, 315rwhp/385rwtq on 87 octane. 13.12 @103.2, 1.91 60'. '67 Firebird [sold], ; 11.27 @ 119.61, 7.167 @ 96.07, with UD 280/280 (108LSA/ 109 ICL)solid cam. [1.537, 7.233 @93.61, 11.46 @ 115.4 w/ old UD 288/296 108 hydraulic cam] Feb '05 HPP, home-ported "16" D-ports, dished pistons (pump gas only), 3.42 gears, 275/60 DR's, 750DP, T2, full exhaust My webpage http://lnlpd.com/home |
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just checked again, 1016.00 so I called and the voice mail box was full couldnt leave a message. ????? it must be a mistake. or extreme covid inflation. BLUE TA
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JE SRP Pistons $569 https://pontiacspeedshop.com/srp-pistons-1/
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thanks goatzilla, looks like 700.00 plus pistons and rings. BLUE TA
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66 GTO Nostalgia Super Stock/Street Legal Car 421 CID, stock block, Wenzler Intake, 2- Carter 750 AFB's, 3.90 Gears, Full Factory Interior, Full Exhaust, Stock Suspension 3750LBS 9.77@136.99 Multiple NSCA/NMCA World Champion 66 GTO 389 3x2, 4 speed, 4.33 gear, Montero Red 33K original Miles 67 GTO 2dr Post, 428, Tri Power, 3.55 Gears 80 Trans Am Black SE Y84 W72 WS6 |
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Was very impressed with previous AutoTec 455 pistons that I purchased for another project. Will call Paul K, tomorrow, don't do FakeBook!
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Run JEs in my turbo car. Been together at least 11 years probably more now without even changing a spark plug. I used to sell parts for ATVs at the race tracks and certain guys were destroying wiseco pistons regularly. I watched them for a bit and realized these guys would come out late for the LCQ fire up and rip down to the start line. I realized the looser tolerances required for expansion were really loose on cold start and these guys were beating the piston in the bore cold .
So I swapped them to a WSM watercraft piston w tighter tolerances .gold coated the top and polymoly on the sides these guys went from Two months on a piston to 2 years! Shot myself in the foot couldn’t sell anymore Pistons or top end kits. �� anyway if your running loose tolerances make sure you get that piston up to temp before beating that engine at all My JE pistons are off the shelf nothing special no coatings Oh yeah don’t do Fakebook or shhhitter either that’s as bad as taking a lonely and posting it there.
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Happiness is just a turbocharger away! 960 HP @ 11 psi, 9.70 at 146. Iron heads, iron stock 2 bolt block , stock crank, 9 years haven't even changed a spark plug! selling turbos and turbo related parts since 2005! |
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