[Half-Inch Stud]

I got hardcopy a couple decades ago. I could pull off the black blobs over the pricing to reveal...the pricing. email gonna stay blobbed

[1968firebird455]

Jim did the community a great service by saving these documents, organizing and storing them and making them available for purchase. Remember these all could have remained in the dumpster and lost to the landfill. I'm sure if the corvette guys had this available there would be enough lawsuits to sink a battleship.

[kingbuzzo]

spermdale? I don't like the sounds of that...lol

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by kingbuzzo

spermdale? I don't like the sounds of that...lol

Fabulous Ferndale.

Burd has a way with wurds.

K

[marxgto]

For anybody wondering the turnaround currently is pretty quick. Five days after they charged my card I had the email with the information.

[turbo69bird]

If I owned the business I’d digitize it for longevity.
Figure cars will always turn over and people will always want to get an official copy of the PHS even if the seller has one .

Digitizing it just guaranty that they will have that option for many many years to come .
However I dint think just anyone should have access to the info , some of these cars are big money and the info is valuable information. Someone could certainly find a lot of rare cars w that info which may save many of them
, but would also make it hard (less likely) for some lucky SOB to find one randomly. I like it when some regular guy just gets lucky and finds a great rare car
Rather than a few with the means to do so, cornering the market. Let those people go buy mclarens. ;-)

[Stuart]

Digitizing the records would be great but there are millions of them. It would probably take years to go through them all, and who knows how much that would cost. As pointed out back on the first page of this discussion:

Let's look at the numbers.
Pontiac built nearly seven million vehicles between 1961 and 1970. At 10 cents per image, that works out to nearly $700,000. If you expand the year count to 1980, you will more than double that figure.

If you could image each Billing History Card or Dealer Invoice at the rate of one per second, it would take one person, working 40 true hours per week, almost a year to complete the image recording. If the actual rate increased to 2 or 3 seconds per image, that would turn out to be a substantially lengthy effort.

Now that you've got that first decade digitized, you can start figuring the cost/time requirement for the OCR phase.

This has always figured as a massive project in time and money. Until the reader/printer that PHS is using at the moment has a fatal breakdown and no repair parts can be located, thus rendering the existing microfilm cassettes useless in their current form, there is no reason for PHS to venture away from the satus quo. However, if or when that unfortunate turn of events comes about, PHS will have a decision to make, but, it is their decision to make.

[MO Olds]

If you have a copy of the original build sheet, what does the PHS provide that is not already known? Essentially, is it 'worth it' to order the documentation if you already have a build sheet?

[dataway]

Converting microfilm, microfiche, to digital data is a huge business. Not sure what format the Pontiac data is in, but rolls are usually priced per roll .. $20-40. Typical roll has 2400 records so from about 1 cent per record to 1.6 cents per record. And the machines that do it are quite fast.
Microfiche holds about 100 records per sheet .. I assume the prices and speed are about the same.
Cost can increase if OCR is required, or there is some unusual requirements. But cost would probably never rise above 3 cents per record I wouldn't think.

So perhaps from as low as $8,500 per million records to $30,000 per million records.

[burd]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Fabulous Ferndale.

Burd has a way with wurds.

K

Hey it’s the Gay city, not that anything is wrong with that.
Como’s restaurant is called……….

Dream Cruise is a couple away, B, I’ll get pics of Higgins AKA Belcastro Pontiac, we start in spermdale and head north to Pontiac , also next year you come to my cars and coffee, I’ll give my Belcastro key chain from the collection, pus Jim Mattison said he’s stopping in, you can talk to him.

[Roofy]

Originally Posted by bhill86

That would be cool, thank you.

Using my limited skills on my phone, this is the best i could come up with contrast and saturation settings

[bhill86]

Originally Posted by Roofy

Using my limited skills on my phone, this is the best i could come up with contrast and saturation settings

It looks like that improved at least part of the document so thank you for your effort. I appreciate it.

[1968firebird455]

There is a program called 'Imagination' that we use to clean up speckling like that on scanned prints. It works extremely well. You just need to be careful with fine print.

[burd]

I found the building to cruising Woodward, I think this is it, in the Wangers DVD he shows it being a piano shop, it’s now a prosthetic place.

[unruhjonny]

Wangers DVD??

[importsmasher]

I never bothered to get PHS for my 66 GTO, since I have the original window sticker, Protect-O-Plate, and full history of the car (parents bought it new), but since I read about the deteriorating records, I decided to go ahead and get it. There were no surprises lol.

Importsmasher

[hgiv]

Our car was bought new by my wife's father so we also knew much of the details. Also no surprises. But... it was cool to see the dealer invoice v. what he paid for the car. Also I had always wondered about some odd add ons, like fender trim pieces. Turns out they were on the invoice as "dealer added" option, handwritten.