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Old 12-01-2018, 07:57 PM
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Question what year these old cars?

anybody recognize these cars? what years are they?

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Old 12-01-2018, 09:06 PM
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Hard to tell from the grainy photos but both look like Model T Fords, probably pre-1920.

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Old 12-01-2018, 10:53 PM
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Very hard to tell by those pictures. You have to remember back then there were dozens of small car companies producing vehicles that looked a lot alike.

I have been transporting them for 35 years & still pickup something I have never heard of before from time to time.

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Old 12-02-2018, 01:22 AM
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First one appears to be a Model T commonly called a Brass T from the brass radiator shell and other trim built from 1909-1913. The second one looks like a lower priced Model T built from 1908-1927.

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Old 12-02-2018, 01:51 AM
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I don''t know. As mentioned, they are from the "brass era" (up to about 1917). The first one appears to have more "drop" to the front axle than early Fords, but picture is poor. The second one doesn't appear to have the speedometer drive gears on the right front hub, as a Ford would have (but maybe it's pre-speedometer). The body shape doesn't look like early Model T (which had no compound curves in the cowl).

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First one to me looks like a Buick , The second ...maybe an Essex??

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Old 12-02-2018, 09:30 AM
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Duryea PA had many car companies, from rickety to elegant

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Old 12-02-2018, 02:45 PM
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One of the cars can be seen at this website:
https://loganwv.us/wp-content/upload...ricia-reed.jpg

I'm not too concerned about the brand of the cars, only trying to establish what years the photos were taken relative to the 1916 time period.

Thanks for all the replies!

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Old 12-02-2018, 03:51 PM
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First one: 1910-1911 Ford Model T Touring. Second one: 1917-1922 Ford Model T. The 1912-14 T's had front doors, which the first pic does not have, so '10-'11. The second car in rough shape doesn't have the slanted windscreen that all T's got in 1923 and continued until 1927. All of the 'iron' T's of 1917-22 look almost identical. First electric starter was 1919. (I have a stock original 1915 T)

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From the rubble in the second pic my first thought was that earthquake San francisco had in 1906.
I believe I saw film footage of aftermath and among horse drawn carts were cars & trolley's
Also before quake in 1900:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJfTa5SjDCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gebK-F4D1k

NYC 1896-1901.....with horseless carriages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7kRYO29n4

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Old 12-02-2018, 09:56 PM
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So,

If the second car (colored photo) is a 1917-1922 car, the picture which claims to be a 1910 street scene cannot be an accurate dating.

Without knowing the car info, I was already thinking the scene had to be several years after 1910. (The power poles in the street scene appear to contradict the fact that the town did not have a power plant until 1916.)

Thanks everyone for your comments!

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First one: 1910-1911 Ford Model T Touring. Second one: 1917-1922 Ford Model T. The 1912-14 T's had front doors, which the first pic does not have, so '10-'11. The second car in rough shape doesn't have the slanted windscreen that all T's got in 1923 and continued until 1927. All of the 'iron' T's of 1917-22 look almost identical. First electric starter was 1919. (I have a stock original 1915 T)

Now there is a man who knows his "T"s!

Are you a member of the MTFCA club & or forum? I was asked to come over there & advertise my service by several members who thought the forum would benefit from a Quality transporter advertising on it & have found it to be a great bunch of guys with whom I have made many friends!

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1966 Ambassador Cust. 2 DR HT
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:16 PM
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Now there is a man who knows his "T"s!

Are you a member of the MTFCA club & or forum? I was asked to come over there & advertise my service by several members who thought the forum would benefit from a Quality transporter advertising on it & have found it to be a great bunch of guys with whom I have made many friends!

God Bless & Merry Christmas
Bill
Yes, been a member since 2005. Getting out pretty soon, as my '15 is going to a new owner this month. It was a joy to restore and drive these past 13 years, but I just don't use it much with today's traffic and distracted drivers. If I lived in a more rural area, I'd keep it. They are amazingly practical cars even today, very nimble and actually can hold their own in traffic, up to about 45 mph.. A blast to drive, too. The Model T guys are all a bunch of eccentrics, not a rotten guy among them from what I've seen....all stand-up guys. You will find doing business with them will most likely be a pleasure. As for the second photo, yes, that T is definitely a '17-'22 model, so the photo has to be at least 1917, but probably later. I'll try to post a photo of my '15....
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