[rare4k]

Picked up a 67 GTO convertible No paint code on data tag and phs has the numbers 12 the number 2 is probably for the color top Black but any no what a number 1 would be?

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[johnta1]

Not for sure on this.
On the BHC the '2' is probably for the top color - black.
The '1' is possibly for special paint code.


The cowl tag usually has a letter for the top color which would be 'B'.
So possibly the '2' is for the special paint code, which I can't remember off-hand what that means, maybe not a Pontiac color?




BTW, what are the letters on the bottom - C B 134 or D B 134 or ?

[rare4k]

I'm not at the car right now but to me they look like G B 134

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[Baron Von Zeppelin]

On a 67 , the top color on the trim tag would be numerical.
ex : A - 2 (Black Paint with Black Top)

The "2" on your trim tag is probably the top color.
If the special paint were a Code 2 Color - the PHS would show Code 2 (instead of Code 1)

Code 1 for a 67 could be Tiger Gold , Omaha Orange, Sherwood Green, Verdoro Green
Maybe you can find some hidden original color remnants somewhere on/in the car.
Careful paint removal on the trunklid hinges might show it.
Good Luck

[rare4k]

Thanks

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[johnta1]

Thanks for the correction BVZ.

[rare4k]

So is a 1 code a special paint code, or just a 4 option choice of paints code ?

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[Baron Von Zeppelin]

So is a 1 code a special paint code, or just a 4 option choice of paints code ?

It's sort of both
Code 1's were extra charge colors -
a) that were pre-selected by Pontiac as further choices
b) offered on another bodystyle Pontiac

Tiger Gold was probably available from beginning of 67 production as a carry over from 65 & 66.
The other 3 choices were probably available later as "Spring Colors"

Code 2's were usually a GM Color that wasn't offered on that year Pontiac Body in the general selection of sales literature.

Code 3's are said to have been for High Metallic/Firemist Cadillac colors.
Have never seen an example.

Code 4's were Primer

Code 6's were Fleet or Batch colors (multiple units)

These are Invoice Codes and likely other numbers used too.
Trim Tag Codes can vary all over the place sometimes with how they were designated.

Let us know what you find color-wise on your GTO , please.
Omaha, Sherwood or Verdoro would be especially rare and unique on a 67 GTO.
Omaha probably the very most unique

a 4 option choice of paints code ?

On your 67 Car - it does boil down to 1 of those 4 choices listed - but it could have been any 1 of those 4.
Only the Car can tell now
or the Buildsheet

[bdk1976]

I'm admittedly no expert on '67s, but I didn't think "Tiger Gold" was a SPEC paint option for '67 - I thought they renamed it to Coronado Gold and made it a RPO for that model year? 1965 Tiger Gold and 1967 Coronado Gold have the same PPG codes (22728)

[67GTONUT]

Mine is a Baltimore Special Paint Car.....

I believe a 1 is a Pontiac Non GTO Color..... and Blank is a color from a Non Pontiac GM color....

My Data plate is blank...... car was ordered 67 Buick Riviera Charcoal

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by 67GTONUT

Mine is a Baltimore Special Paint Car.....

I believe a 1 is a Pontiac Non GTO Color..... and Blank is a color from a Non Pontiac GM color....

My Data plate is blank...... car was ordered 67 Buick Riviera Charcoal

Yours would be a Great Example to compare.
Rare4K is Baltimore also
And also BLANK for Paint Code on Trim Tag

I believe a 1 is a Pontiac Non GTO Color..... and Blank is a color from a Non Pontiac GM color....

Trying to tie this together - if you can do a specific confirmation.
It sounds like you are saying your trim tag is BLANK for paint code.
BUT - what is listed on your PHS for paint code ?

I have some more info from FirstGenFirebird website that might explain your color better if you also have "1" on your PHS.
They also list these other Special Paint options for 1967 Pontiac

Mayfair Maize
Copper Blaze (867-98105)
Sierra Red (867-97592)
Silver Turquoise (867-99079)
Blue Charcoal (867-97211)

The Blue Charcoal is likely your color - if you have Code 1 on PHS.
The BLANK trim tag is most likely just a Baltimore protocol

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

I'm admittedly no expert on '67s, but I didn't think "Tiger Gold" was a SPEC paint option for '67 - I thought they renamed it to Coronado Gold and made it a RPO for that model year? 1965 Tiger Gold and 1967 Coronado Gold have the same PPG codes (22728)

1967 GTO Colors

Starlight Black A
Cameo Ivory C
Montero Blue D
Fathom Blue E
Tyrol Blue F
Signet Gold G
Linden Green H
Gulf Turquoise K
Mariner Turquoise L
Plum Mist M
Burgundy N
Silverglaze P
Regimental Red R
Champagne S
Montego Cream T

Any color other than these would be Special Order/Special Paint/Extra Charge - on GTO.
Whether chosen to call it Tiger or Coronado - usually depends on what the subject or topic vehicle is.
On paintref.com charts its called both names.
Paint Code O is assigned to it on paintref.com
67 Tiger Gold (or if you rather - Coronado Gold) GTO's are known and documented.
None of them carry Paint Code O on the trim tags - afaik

Does anyone have record of a 67 GTO or 67 AnyPontiac with Code O on trim tag ?
Firebird or Fullsize may have used Code O for it - idunno
Coronado may have been labeled that way for Firebird introduction/release mid-year.

Verdoro Green was a 67 Firebird color for instance.
On a Bird it would carry Code Q - on a GTO it would carry Code 1 (on PHS).
Just because we may find listings here or there - does not make a color a free choice across the board - unless it was one of the base original introduction colors at beginning of model year.

To get THAT color Gold on a GTO in 67 - you paid extra.
And they all have Code 1 on PHS from my recall so far.

Any color not listed in the 15 colors above - was extra charge for Special Paint on a GTO.
Tiger or Coronado label would be a matter of choice - i suppose.

On FirstGenFirebird website they are also listing a few other colors than i listed - I am supposing "Spring Colors" .
Have seen PMD charts for 66 and 68 "Special Order" & "Spring Color"- but not for 67. Just listing these in case anyone wants to do further research for PMD Bulletins.


Mayfair Maize
Copper Blaze (867-98105)
Sierra Red (867-97592)
Silver Turquoise (867-99079)
Blue Charcoal (867-97211)

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

The Blue Charcoal is likely your color - if you have Code 1 on PHS.
The BLANK trim tag is most likely just a Baltimore protocol

If you have Code 2 for paint on PHS - then it is from another GM Branch. (not offered by PMD)

If it is Code 1 - then it is a color PMD pulled under their umbrella (which could still be a "Buick" color they adopted as a Special Color)

The 1 or 2 on PHS will determine that

The #1 thing is you own the car, above and beyond all else.
Defining the color selection process in 1967 is about #37+

[PontiacJim1959]

What color is it now around the Data Tag? I had a '67 GTO convertible painted factory Iris Mist, black top, black interior, Ram Air hood (not ram air engine) M21, 3.90 single track. The car was painted a Navy blue, but they did not paint anymore than the outside panels, so Iris Mist was still found on many places.

I would think you'll find the original color still left somewhere on the car even if it had been painted over.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by PontiacJim1959

What color is it now around the Data Tag?

I would think you'll find the original color still left somewhere on the car even if it had been painted over.

He (Rare4k) posted a picture of Trim Tag in Post #1
Looks like the tag was protected and the whole firewall was media blasted.
So probably the whole car has been blasted.
Hopefully he can find some obscure spot that still has good clues.

[squidtone]

For reference, there is a 67 GTO on eBay right now that is advertised as being "Tiger Gold".
The PHS doc is shown, and it is a "1 2" code, with 223 interior.

The car appears to be very well done, but the gold is not as bright as I'd expect Tiger Gold to be...it looks more like Signet Gold. But still, it shows the 1 as the first digit in the exterior trim code.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Pontia...kAAOSwi2RfvXrF

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Just want to point out that the
PHS Paint Code
and
Trim Tag Paint Code
those both need to be identified on every car, in discussions on Special Paint.

Both have their importance.
The PHS Code can determine trends across the whole range.
The Trim Tag Code can vary from Plant-to-Plant, but is also an important note of data.

Some previous posts from other threads on the topic have some mis-information and transposed information.
You really have to take each year as a separate study.

Some of the quotes used from various articles and books do not apply to every year.
Particularly not complying with 66-67-68 years.

In another thread there was a guy with a Marlboro Maroon 67 (Tygrr67)
He wanted others to share their trim tag data - and offered to share his - but he never did.
If he happens to read this thread - maybe he will post more of his info.
His PHS Code would be of great assistance since we know Marlboro Maroon was a Corvette Only color, at least by the book. Definitely not PMD , PMD Spring nor PMD Special Order for 67.

Found this 67 Bulletin
I noticed that Sierra Red could pass for Marlboro, and SilverTurq could pass for Charcoal.
Not saying anyone is wrong or right about their color - but sometimes there may be more than one explanation for some colors.
Without the paint stock number stamped on the trim tag or printed on the Buildsheet - it could get tough to nail some colors with 100% authenticity - is all i am saying.

I have another chart that lists Corona Gold as a Firebird Spring Color.
"Tiger" may have just been it's GTO/Tempest/Lemans personna , and Corona referenced for any other bodystyle - is a best guess.
It could be GTO enthusiasts throughout all these long gone years have brainwashed us to keep calling it Tiger. idunno , but it was extra cost either way on a GTO.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

It appears that there were 8 different "Special Paint" colors under the PMD Umbrella for 1967.
The most of any other year i have investigated.

Tiger/Coronado Gold
Verdoro Green
Sherwood Green
Omaha Orange
Mayfair Maize
Copper Blaze
Sierra Red
Silver Turquoise
Blue Charcoal

So if you have a "1" on your 1967 PHS Paint Code - at minimum it could have been any of those 8 colors.
Possibly more depending on what other data/documents the future brings.

[Mcronk]

So this may not fit in your paint code documentation but I have seen 2 67 cars painted in a color that looks like Mary Kay pink. One was a 67 Firebird 400 and the other a 67 GTO that was being stripped for painting and was found below other colors. Interestingly last year we moved and had a huge moving sale. A guy saw my 67 GTO in garage and said he used to work for PMD. Best I could tell he worked in product/scheduling/planning. He mentioned a small run of 67 Firebirds ordered by Playboy and painted pink. I guess there are a few different ways a car could be ordered with special paint. I had his contact info but misplaced it when we moved.

[67GTONUT]

Just figured I would add as much info as I have on mine.....
So I took some pics

I am the 5th owner, but the original owner had the car for 20 years.... and all her documentation was handed from owner to owner...... when I got the car in 2001 I tracked her down and ended up talking with her for over an hour on the phone..... and of course one of the questions was ..... Why Buick Charcoal Gray....
She said on her way to the dealer to order the GTO, she passed by a Buick showroom, and in the window on one of those spinning displays was a 67 Riv in that Gray...... she fell in love with the color, so when she ordered the GTO, she requested the color.....

So I have attached the best photo I can take of the Data plate ( yes I know its glossy paint on the firewall...... I am not a purist)

also a photo of my PHS doc
a photo of the owners manual folder..... not in good shape and the special paint color code is torn away.....

and also a photo of the car when I found it in 2001

a pretty solid survivor...