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1977 Formula base/standard equipment
Hello;
I am wondering if someone could verse me on the standard equipment included with the 1977 Formula model. I am pretty well versed on the 1970-1973 stuff, but after 1974, my knowledge falls off... I do have a 1976 Pontiac Sales (Canadian) book, so I should be able to see what was standard on the Formula that year, but I'd really like to know for sure what was included in the Formula model for 1977. Thanks in advance!!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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There's a 1977 full line brochure here that may help: http://oldcarbrochures.org/United%20...ure/index.html
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great!
so my 1976 dealer book says that the centre console came as standard equipment in the Formula that year; I am guessing it remained standard equipment for 1977? That link told me that the spoiler was standard on the Formula - that is good to read. What about wipers - were recessed wipers standard equipment?
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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also, does anyone know what ZP2 on a 1977 Formula might indicate?
i'm going to guess it's something small pertaining to the assembly line, and currently indecipherable.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) Last edited by unruhjonny; 04-26-2023 at 12:23 PM. |
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Wasn't that the Trim colour override option? What colour combination is it?
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starlight black upper and lower
it's a D98 car - so it had the optional upper stripe; Not sure of the original colour for that colour car - the current owner believes it was had silver accenting.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Also the car currently has a black interior - not red.
I am guessing that a previous owner did an interior swap; It has black 77 cloth seats, and 73-75(?) deluxe upper door panels. The dash insert is wrong (non gauge w/AC insert, on a no-gauge, non-AC car), the gauges are just wrong (combination of correct an earlier parts but the gauges from the auxiliary pod have been separately mounted in the AC holes)... I incredibly skeptical that the ZP2 would be for a last minute interior change not reflected on the cowl tag - which is what the seller seems to think it implied. (I am not implying the seller is trying to be deceitful, incase anyone reads into this - I think he is simply mistaken.)
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Where are you seeing the ZP2?
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in the (GM of Canada) Vintage Vehicle Services paperwork.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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That appears to be an over-ride so an 'ugly' color can be used with an exterior color.
The cowl tag has a red cloth seat and probably all red interior appointments. Don't know if red is a recommended color for black or not though. That code would not be used for a black interior though?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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I would be more incline to think it has something to do with the D98 option;
specifically regarding the black over red interior versus the default D98 stripe colour for a black paint car. maybe it was a color that was deemed to not looked good with the red interior(?). Several years ago my brother owned a non-SE starlight black TA with red cloth interior; I loved that interior! Maybe someone reading this has a 1977 assembly manual(?) or can point me to a chart in that phone-book-of-an-MPC used for 1977-1981 Pontiacs - to show what colour D98 stripe was supposed to go with a black car.(?)
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) Last edited by unruhjonny; 04-26-2023 at 11:43 PM. |
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Doubt it's listed in the assembly manual, it is listed in the service manual somewhat and also the dealer manuals. I'll check when home.
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The recommended D98 stripe for a Starlight black 77 formula was the silver decal with a black interior. The red interior with the silver decal may have been the mismatch option.
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