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PY Tri power
Does anyone make a fuel line set up that looks more like the original rather than than the set up that comes with the PY kit? it works well but I like the look of the original, like this beautiful set up pictured. All fittings on mine face forward, red car.
Cheers Frank. |
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You may consider to replace the end carb tops for the correct style and have the original style fuel lines fit.
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The Lines in the pictures are "Old School Hot Rod" look pieces. Nothing wrong with that deal if you are into "Old School" look vs "Factory Pontiac" look. Who told you that was a Production Pontiac Fuel line set-up? If it was production, it would have been on some of the very first Tri-Powers from possibly Chevy or Ford vehicles, not Pontiac. The 1961 (and others) big car Tri-Powers used a fuel line block and lines that was positioned differently but not like your pics. Just my thoughts on your statement. Tom V.
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I believe all Pontiac factory setups had forward facing inlet on center carb and pass side inlets on front and rear. The actual fuel lines ran in different patterns depending on year. And sometimes may have varied within the year. There are various sources of replacement stock style lines. Might try Dick Boneske who often posts here or Mike Wasson (Pontiac Tri Power) or maybe Right Stuff Detailing or Inline Tube.
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Jon.
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Were those with the "snake lines" going to a single big fuel fitting (far front) on the drivers side, Jon.
Tom V.
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Tom - yes on the 1958. The 1957 fuel lines resemble the letter S like in (S)am:
http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/195...gerside3x2.jpg Jon.
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"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air". "The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor". If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri). Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings. |
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Learned something today. Thanks Jon,
Never was aware of the "S" system but a cool application for sure. May do that at some point to be different on a later Tri-Power, LOL! "What, That IS a Pure Pontiac Factory Tri-Power Fuel System dude". Mess with the Judges. Tom V.
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Tom - the 1957 unit was significantly different than other years. A few of the differences:
(1) three small carbs (shared only with 1958) (2) bend on front to rear rod up instead of down (3) throttle return springs on front and rear were vertical springs, rather than encircling the throttle shaft (4) fuel lines were just weird. Not only in the form of the letter S as posted above, but the front to center was 3/8, and the center to rear was 5/16. Try finding an aftermarket 3/8 x 5/16 x male 1/8 pipe fuel fitting. When we were still restoring these things, I machined a couple of these. (5) air cleaner had the starburst lid There were several other differences, but this is enough for this thread. Jon.
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"Good carburetion is fuelish hot air". "The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one given to you by your neighbor". If you truly believe that "one size fits all" try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! Owner of The Carburetor Shop, LLC (of Missouri). Current caretaker of the remains of Stromberg Caburetor, and custodian of the existing Carter and Kingston carburetor drawings. |
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Thanks for the additional information.
Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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Just to throw another one into the mix- my '61 SD Tri-Power (large end carbs, small center) has all three fuel inlets aimed at the passenger-side! Convenient for a log feed...
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Tom, no one told me that my set up was original I simply asked if anyone made something I could replace my un original set up to something that looked more original. I don't like the looks of mine.
Cheers Frank. |
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Two of these:
https://secure.amesperf.com/qilan/De...A&web_access=Y and this: https://secure.amesperf.com/qilan/De...A&web_access=Y Then you´ll be good to go. |
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I have to say your set up looks much more clean and efficient than the factory snake swirl. I don't see why you want it to look original. Your engine is black and your steering wheel is on the wrong side anyway.
Just pulling your leg. Your motor looks clean and sanitary to me. Be proud of it and smoke the competition. |
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Hey aceaceca the steering wheel is on the Right side actually, get it, as in Right hand side? just kidding my car was converted not long after it was made, it would have been a High dollar car compared to the local Holdens etc. at the time. I now have all the fuel lines from the U.S. and it looks like I will have to buy a new top for my front carb that points to the side as I am having difficulty getting the line across as pictured the 50 = 2" and the 20 = 13/16" I need a small converter from the fuel block to the flare, any ideas.
Cheers Frank. |
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If you had the right top for the front carb, the fuel lines would fit just fine with the 4-way block you have. You can buy a repro or original top for less than $100 to solve your problem.
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By the time its converted to Australian dollars plus shipping its $200, all I need is one fitting, does anyone make it?
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What is the thread size of the male taper on the fuel block and the female thread on the flared end.
Cheers Frank. |
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Male threads on the 4 way fitting are 1/8 NPT tapered pipe..
Female threads for 5/16" lines are 1/2-20, for the 3/8" line threads are 5/8-18. I have some female 1/8 NPT to 1/2-20 flare nut adapters in my parts bin.. That would work on the male nipple from the 4-way fitting so a short piece of 5/16" tubing flared would fit the gap. I could send you two flare nuts and the adapter if you want.
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Hi Dick, Thanks for that offer I would like to take you up on your offer please but you know I live in Australia don't you? I did find these pieces from a place called Enzed over here, which will work but looks a bit much. Let me know how we can make this happen. By the way the Tri Power pictured is one I am using just to mock up, it is an original manifold but the carbs are not.
Cheers Frank. |
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