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Your name has been coming up a lot lately.

I did try to get in touch with the owner of the Black Ghost - I wanted to challenge him to a best two out of three go during the Dream Cruise with the GTO, maybe as a subset of the M1 Concours drag activities.

I figured it would be a cool outing for a couple kids with their dad's old cars. We could bill it as "the Black Ghost vs the Black Goat" (lol). I don't know what the MOPAR runs but I my car has gone 12.20's in full race trim (Ram air, no exhaust and 9" slicks), so I think I've got some room to play in street trim.

Never heard back.

I also thought maybe it could plant the seed for other Woodward legends to meet up and re-create some runs, including the Black Bird vs Silver Bullet, etc.

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You were cruising Woodward with the wrong car! I believe I saw you in your '63 Grand Prix. Should have swung into Pasteiner's. Harold Sullivan had a whole theatrical show with a classic Michigan State Police car escorting him driving Jimmy Addison's GTX followed by the kid driving his dad's black Challenger the "Black Ghost" with a Dodge pickup and a drummer in playing in the bed. You could have broken in with your dad's '65 GTO. I was stuck and blocked in at Pasteiner's lot with my '68 GTO. Couldn't get out. David happened to bring the Black Bird by just after the parade went by us.
Would have been interesting if we could have timed it to have your '65 GTO and me borrow the Blackbird and break in and join their MOPAR parade. LOL
Heck I'd put my '68 GTO up against the Black Ghost! Now that would be a good race! LOL

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News update: the 1970 Challenger Street Hemi aka Black Ghost that no one in Detroit Woodward Ave racing circles ever heard of. Has been on display with Stellantis (Fiat Chrysler's) soon to be released NEW Black Ghost. A display has been at the MECUM Auction. They are going to auction off the 1970 Challenger. It showed up twice after the Dream Cruise at our Saturday morning gatherings at Pasteiner's Auto Zone Hobby's. It was accompanied by Ralph Gilles, Stellantis Chief of Design and CEO of Street & Racing Technology. Ralph arrived driving his all Carbon Fiber 1968 Dodge Charger with modern drivetrain and technology. Customer car body alone are $200,000.00. I believe the "Black Ghost" will be up for auction at MECUM INDY May 12-20, 2023.

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News update: the 1970 Challenger Street Hemi aka Black Ghost that no one in Detroit Woodward Ave racing circles ever heard of. Has been on display with Stellantis (Fiat Chrysler's) soon to be released NEW Black Ghost. A display has been at the MECUM Auction. They are going to auction off the 1970 Challenger. It showed up twice after the Dream Cruise at our Saturday morning gatherings at Pasteiner's Auto Zone Hobby's. It was accompanied by Ralph Gilles, Stellantis Chief of Design and CEO of Street & Racing Technology. Ralph arrived driving his all Carbon Fiber 1968 Dodge Charger with modern drivetrain and technology. Customer car body alone are $200,000.00. I believe the "Black Ghost" will be up for auction at MECUM INDY May 12-20, 2023.
I saw that same notice; I thought perhaps that's why the Ghost's owner was not willing to meet up on Woodward, if he knew he would be auctioning the car in the near future.

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Ralph arrived driving his all Carbon Fiber 1968 Dodge Charger with modern drivetrain and technology. Customer car body alone are $200,000.00. I believe the "Black Ghost" will be up for auction at MECUM INDY May 12-20, 2023.
I see that someone has also come out with a carbon fiber body for Camaros, too.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-196...o-sale-fortune

I could really make my ratty ole Chevelle fly with an investment of $200,000.

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Where is all of this money coming from? I mentioned the money issue to Werner Meir. He's response was PPP money that these guys didn't spend already. I thought that was an interesting observation.

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The Black Ghost is at AutoRama on display I saw it today
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The Silver Bullet is there also. My buddy owned that car from 1979 until the mid 90's when, I think the current owner, bought it from him. I rode in it once when my buddy first bought it, around 1979-1980.

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The Black Ghost is at AutoRama on display I saw it today
I was at Autorama on Friday night with a few friends. We saw both the "Black Ghost" and Jimmy Addison's car. I did see the owner of the Challenger wondering around. He wasn't wearing his usual hat. Non of my friends saw him near his car either. Nice piece to keep in memory of your father. But too much hype for a nothing special "Woodward" car that never went north of 8 Mile Rd where the REAL action was. Chrysler is going to make that family some money for all of the hype just to bring out their Special Edition "Black Ghost" new Challenger.

Saw Jimmy Addison's silver GTX sitting in the isle so you couldn't miss it. I liked the cars down stairs much better. The way hot rodding was. Home made low buck do it yourself.

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I agree, there were some nice cars upstairs, but we liked the lower-level cars better also.

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Uncle Tony's Garage (former editor of Mopar Action magazine) did an interesting video about the Black Ghost car after it sold at Mecum. He called it the greatest scam in collector car history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2LjOvcnBFU

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Uncle Tony's Garage (former editor of Mopar Action magazine) did an interesting video about the Black Ghost car after it sold at Mecum. He called it the greatest scam in collector car history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2LjOvcnBFU
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https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175665

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One of the BIGGEST Frauds. None of us who raced Woodward Ave, Northwestern Hwy/ I696, Telegraph Rd back in the day. Ever heard of it! Much less worry about a "Stock" unmodified "Street" Hemi! A car when sitting at a light who's plugs would load up! Never would have been feared here in Detroit! With all of our speed shops on or just off Woodward. Seriously! Not to mention all the Corp engineering "Field" testing or doing "Market Research"! LOL

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Watch the new PBS Doc on Detroit/ Woodward, it has the Silver Bullit as well as the Black Ghost in it, good Doc on the. Ruining scene, in the D. It open with Barry sellin a 69 TA.

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Got a link?

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You have to go to Detroit PBS. I would think you could stream it on their site.

In the documentary it shows the silver Bullet pulling int cars and coffee at Pasteiners. Check it out if you can.
I would have thought that it would run on all PBS stations, another couple worth viewing is the Bob Seeger and the Bob Lo boat documentary

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Do you know the name of the show? I went to the Detroit PBS website and wasn't able to find anything. I searched on 'Woodward' and got no results.

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I didn't find it either.

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The full length dvd is out, picked one up yesterday at Pasteiners on Woodward. $19.95

Im sure you can buy one at the PBS store.
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Detroit PBS has the trailer for that show on their website, but not the entire show. https://www.dptv.org/2023/08/detroit...d-muscle-cars/

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I have ordered two DVDs directly from PBS over the years. I imagine you could do the same for this one. That looks like a good one.

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