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Old 09-29-2019, 08:47 PM
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Has anyone tried these Turbo headers? It says its for "Air Boats" however I dont see why they would not work for vehicles... as long as it leaves room for accessories.

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https://www.stainlessheaders.com/pro...irboat_Header/

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Old 09-29-2019, 09:38 PM
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Actually ordered some today. I'll let you know. They'll be going into a second gen T/A

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Another link https://www.stainlessheaders.com/pro..._Turbo_Header/

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Looks very nice! If they fit.

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Old 09-29-2019, 11:02 PM
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I could have them made by my Fabrication Shop cheaper than $1600 and made using one of my blocks and heads. But they are very nice looking, and I already have a set made by Turbo455 years ago. (that fit perfectly)

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Old 09-30-2019, 04:32 PM
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LOL, I honestly looked on their sight for a set of NON air boat headers for the Pontiac... I could not find it. I wonder what the difference would be?

I really like the modular part of it all... Cant wait to see how you get it all built up... I hope they leave room for AC and the rest of the accessories...

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Actually ordered some today.

Cool, Erik.
What was the price?
$799 or $1600?



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Cool, Erik.
What was the price?
$799 or $1600?


You get both L&R for $799.00... which is not a bad deal when you consider everything else is a "CLAMP ON" pipe... right to the Turbo. The only needed fabbing would be the exhaust exit pipe.

Ill purchase them once I'm ready to mock everything up...

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$799 is a very good deal for a PAIR of stainless manifolds,

Could not tell if the add was saying one piece or two pieces.

The first link shows ONE header, not TWO Headers and the Number of parts says ONE
Why I assumed 1600 for a SET.

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Personally,I can't see any benefit of these over a set of decent cast factory manifolds or the Ram Air type cast headers at half the price, especially on a street car. I used a set of ordinary cast iron manifolds many years back on a budget turbo combo, I reversed the manifolds so the outlets were at the front and made a short J pipe to the turbos.

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I was looking at the Ram Air type however could not tell what position they would land the outlets... And I cant afford to buy a set only to find out they do not work. Topped off with the fact that you are literally the first person to date to say they do work reversed (That I know of).

Do you have any pictures of them installed? Where do the outlets land?

One thing I like about the Stainless ones is the fact that they are "Modular" connected with V-bands... I dont need to pay anyone to weld me any custom exhaust pluming. So there is that...

If you have any pics of the Ram Air headers installed I would honestly love to see them. Thats what I was searching for when I ran across these.

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$799 is a very good deal for a PAIR of stainless manifolds,

Could not tell if the add was saying one piece or two pieces.

The first link shows ONE header, not TWO Headers and the Number of parts says ONE
Why I assumed 1600 for a SET.

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Tom, after you posted the 1600 I went back to actually read the entire add... I was way to excited to take the time to read it all the first time. LOL

down the page it does say:

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The initial set up will come with:

(2) 1/2" thick 304 SS header flanges with a 2" round port in the header flange.

-The flanges for the 3" bolt space AFR/Dart heads come with a custom machine job, utilizing the same port shape and smoothly transitioning to 2" round for a smooth, laminar flow.

(8) Purge Tig Welded primaries coped into a compound manifold, made of 0.120" heavy wall pipe, 304 SS.

(2) Compound log manifolds with a 2 1/2" outside diameter, kept tight against the engine block for tight engine bay applications, ending with a 2 1/2" v-band flange for additional modular components
So it does appear that you get 2 headers for the $799.00...

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I like the basic design, with two headers for $799 you are at the bottom of the $$$ scale for that kind of fabrication work. I have had a lot of stainless fabrication work done over the years at McLaren Racing, Watson Engineering, and Technosports. I did not pay for it, my old employer did.

Thanks for the updated info.

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Air Ram, I used ordinary factory cast iron manifolds reversed-I don't think the Ram air manifolds were out then, it was over 20 years ago so I don't have any pics,sorry. The manifold outlets pointed down and came out near cylinders 1 & 2, I had the T4 sized turbos set up in front of the engine and used 2" 'J' pipes to the turbine housings. This was in a European car so I can't say how they would fit in your car, but later on when I switched to naturally aspirated,I swapped a set of Hedman headers side to side so that I could bring the 90 degree collectors out through the front fenders . (it was too tight to get the headers under the car pointing rearwards).

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Air Ram, I used ordinary factory cast iron manifolds reversed-I don't think the Ram air manifolds were out then, it was over 20 years ago so I don't have any pics,sorry. The manifold outlets pointed down and came out near cylinders 1 & 2, I had the T4 sized turbos set up in front of the engine and used 2" 'J' pipes to the turbine housings. This was in a European car so I can't say how they would fit in your car, but later on when I switched to naturally aspirated,I swapped a set of Hedman headers side to side so that I could bring the 90 degree collectors out through the front fenders . (it was too tight to get the headers under the car pointing rearwards).
Thanks Taff, either way you shared very good and relevant information. I have been trying to eye ball them and guesstimate where the outlet would end up at the angle our heads have them mounted... they kind of play with a couple angles both from the head mounting angle and then the header flange angle... add them up and then consider where the outlet would be can make it challenging to guess without mounting them.

I imagine they would be pushed up and out board... Not exactly where they end up...

It would be nice if someone who had a set of the ram air headers and a mock up engine could mount them reversed for a visual... .... .... .... .... ...

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Looks very nice! If they fit.
I will make them fit. Lol
And yes, they were $799 delivered for the pair

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I will make them fit. Lol
And yes, they were $799 delivered for the pair
Yeah, same here... for me these are a game changer and the only reason I have been on the fence between Turbo or centrifugal...

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Got a build update picture today from the guy building my headers. He said they'll be out the door today. He took that picture last night before he went home. Very nice guy named Steve.
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1966 LeMans. 462, SD prepped Kaufman D ports. 11.90 @ 112
1976 Trans Am twin turbo 462, SD Edelbrock heads 8.50@159
2009 G8 GT
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Wow... those are some thick flanges! cant wait to see them completed!!!

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