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Old 12-06-2020, 11:32 PM
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Default 1500 for a 67 400 sitting a LONG time

One of my friends is the ultimate Pontiac man. You name it and he’s got it or can lay his hand on it running gear wise. Anyway I had a friend ask me to ask him about a 400. He said yeah I got 6, all stores inside. 3 are 67 HO GTO 400s that were pulled running and stored inside in an insulated but not climate controlled building since the 80s. They are not stuck and turn freely. Are they worth 1500 apiece?

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Old 12-06-2020, 11:43 PM
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I am a cheapskate , so would only pay that much if i had a 67 GTO and wanted a period corect engine to rebuild.

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Old 12-07-2020, 01:26 AM
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If they're complete from carb to pan and still have all the pulleys and brackets on the front...yes. A little on the "high end" but yes.

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Old 12-07-2020, 01:29 AM
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My view may not be shared by all here, but I would mostly view them as cores that will need to be rebuilt. Does your friend care that they are HO motors? Is he going to reuse the heads, intake, and rotating assembly, or does he basically just want a bare bock to build into his own vision?

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Old 12-07-2020, 09:16 AM
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They are complete from oil pan to air cleaner. He was thinking he would sell off the 67 parts and just use the block

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As I have said before I know where 3 67 HO 400 GTO engines are complete from carb to oil pan. When my friend first told me he wanted 1500 for them I balked but now I realize that’s probably a deal. Especially since I could sell the carb etc and recoup some money
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455 but I can get you three 67 400 HO for 1500 apiece complete from air cleaner to oil pan as cores only unknown condition been stored for years and don’t know why they were pulled to begin with
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I am trying to amass a collection of Pontiac motors because they aren’t growing on trees around here. The car isn’t running but the engine is complete and it is one of those I drove it here and parked it specials. I am gonna buy it and just put it in the corner of the garage with the 455 block I have. I would like to find some 400s and up for that price but when I see one on Craigslist it’s gone when I call.
He has a 65 389 he’s gonna sell me for another 200 bucks so I guess I will be the 389 king ��. I have access to 3 67 400 HO motors complete from air cleaner to oil pan but he wants 1500 apiece for them. I will wait until he is truly motivated to sell and hopefully end up with them. We are good friends and he will offer them to me first before he goes to market with them. He is getting long in the tooth so I don’t know how much longer he’s gonna screw with this stuff.
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I wish I had some Pontiac Gus closer. Hell I'd take chevelle guys. My only "Pontiac friend" up here is a good guy but he prices all his parts like they are gold which in a way I guess they are now. I just can't spend 1500 on a core even if it is a 67 HO 400
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The reason he wants 1500 for the cores is because they are 400 ho out of 67 GTOs and he doesn't really want to part with them. He's a Pontiac hoarder 😂

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They are complete from oil pan to air cleaner. He was thinking he would sell off the 67 parts and just use the block
Since in this case it doesn't sound like being an HO block makes any difference in the end for your friend, I don't really see the point in spending $1500 on a longblock knowing that it needs to be torn down and completely rebuilt with different parts. You can still find standard bore 400 blocks for $500'ish on a regular basis, and then you wouldn't need to go through the ordeal of trying to recoup the $1k difference by selling off the old heads, crank, intake, etc. Are the old parts even worth $1k?

My general philosophy is don't buy parts you don't need unless you absolutely must have something they are connected to. In this instance, it doesn't seem like your friend absolutely needs that particular engine block versus any other 400 donor block that can be found for less money as a bare block.

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What ZGH said! I know I live in the sticks, so that makes it different but I’ve got a 400 short block & a bare block. I couldn’t get $300 out of either one. I guess as realtors say, location location location.

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If it’s a engine that could be dropped in a car and used yes it’s worth it. If he’s getting it to rebuild it probably not. We sold a complete 68 wt 400 ready to use 3 years ago $1400.00 and we just bought one 68 ys engine disassembled for $800.00. If it’s a drop in engine it’s worth a little more always.

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In all but one of those I simply offered to check on them for someone but stated a price I only ASKED if they were worth it once and expounded they were too rich for my blood at the time.

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One of my friends is the ultimate Pontiac man. You name it and he’s got it or can lay his hand on it running gear wise. Anyway I had a friend ask me to ask him about a 400. He said yeah I got 6, all stores inside. 3 are 67 HO GTO 400s that were pulled running and stored inside in an insulated but not climate controlled building since the 80s. They are not stuck and turn freely. Are they worth 1500 apiece?

I've seen you mention the three '67 HOs many times but what about the other 3? He want the same money for those? Complete?

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I'd pay $1500 for a good '67 WS block. Been casually looking for one for a project I have squirreled away...A would be ideal, but B or early C would work.

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if he had one with a k 66 date code i would be interested

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Sounds like the two friends need intoduced.

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