[Little Bob]

How is everyone cleaning and treating the underneath of the dash metal?

[rohrt]

Wire wheel or just POR it.

[dataway]

If it's just got the typical dusty surface rust I give it a wire brushing with a toothbrush size wire brush and then use a rust converter on it. Converter works great on the uniform light rust usually found under the dash.

Strange they didn't paint that metal ... it's obvious on most cars that it was absolutely bare steel.

[Greg Reid]

Are you talking about the painted lower dash?
Restoring it or maintaining the condition?

[Little Bob]

Thank you for confirming my thoughts, I was going to use a wire wheel and POR. I'm going to assume that knowone has cut their dash out to clean.

[GregP]

I took my dash out to have Just Dashes redo it. I used a wire wheel and cleaned it best I could, then used a rust converter paint on it prior to sending it out. Very happy with the results.

[Little Bob]

How hard was it to take out?

[GregP]

Originally Posted by Little Bob

How hard was it to take out?

It's pretty basic removal. Takes me about 35-40 minutes but I have done it about 10 times. Probably take you an hour or more for first time. Easier with seats out so you don't have to contortion yourself under the dash. I have a word doc with photos and step by step instructions that I can't remember where I got it from. I just don't know how to post it here. If someone can let me know, I will post it. Or email me at: gpagency@aol.com and I will send it to you

[Greg Reid]

I must be really slow. I'm still trying to figure out what you guys are talking about. When you say dash do you mean instrument panel, the dash pad or the metal dash?

[GregP]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

I must be really slow. I'm still trying to figure out what you guys are talking about. When you say dash do you mean instrument panel, the dash pad or the metal dash?

I am assuming we are talking about the removable dash pad and unfinished metal behind it that is not covered. Not the metal structure that's welded to the car body and is not accessible unless the dash is removed or the instrument panel.

[dataway]

I was thinking the metal structure that is part of the car ... I think the OP means the metal that is part of the padded dash.

Either way ... rust cleans up about the same way, one is just a lot more trouble than the other

Also .. 68 or 69 and later would make a big difference.

[Little Bob]

Originally Posted by GregP

It's pretty basic removal. Takes me about 35-40 minutes but I have done it about 10 times. Probably take you an hour or more for first time. Easier with seats out so you don't have to contortion yourself under the dash. I have a word doc with photos and step by step instructions that I can't remember where I got it from. I just don't know how to post it here. If someone can let me know, I will post it. Or email me at: gpagency@aol.com and I will send it to you

Thanks, my car is nothing but a shell at this point. The body is off the frame for sheet metal work. If you want to send me that doc.. You can use robert.jones@loureiro.com. Maybe other people on the site would be interested in the doc. too.

[Little Bob]

Originally Posted by GregP

I am assuming we are talking about the removable dash pad and unfinished metal behind it that is not covered. Not the metal structure that's welded to the car body and is not accessible unless the dash is removed or the instrument panel.

I'm talking about removing the metal structure of the dash. I would like to get that area really cleaned and protected. I know it welding and bolted to the body the firewall.

[GregP]

Originally Posted by Little Bob

I'm talking about removing the metal structure of the dash. I would like to get that area really cleaned and protected. I know it welding and bolted to the body the firewall.

You would have to remove the dash/pad to have proper access to it.

[dataway]

Bob ... you have a 68 or 69? I assume 68 because later years the whole freakin structure seems to come out. I know what you mean, first time I laid on my back and looked up there I was a bit put off by all the rust.

It's not a huge deal to cut it out ... EXCEPT .. for the parts that attach to the upper dash metal that contains the VIN, radio grill etc. You can split it across the top edge that is hidden behind the padded dash and leave the upper metal section with the speaker grill etc. When welding it back in you have to make sure to space it to account for the kerf of whatever you used to make the cuts.

I replaced all the lower metal on mine from a donor car because of radio hole damage, damage from where someone tried to steal a tach out of it etc. Figured it was easier than trying to patch up the old dash in place.

Anyway, if it's just the dusty red surface rust, the dust brushes off pretty easy with a small wire brush, but it is tedious work on your back .... then blow it off with air and spray on some rust converter, it works real good on that kind of rust.

If I was in your shoes and the rust wasn't heavy, I'd leave it in place and spend some time on my back. If it's heavily pitted .... that would be your call on removing the structure.

[Little Bob]

Originally Posted by dataway

Bob ... you have a 68 or 69? I assume 68 because later years the whole freakin structure seems to come out. I know what you mean, first time I laid on my back and looked up there I was a bit put off by all the rust.

It's not a huge deal to cut it out ... EXCEPT .. for the parts that attach to the upper dash metal that contains the VIN, radio grill etc. You can split it across the top edge that is hidden behind the padded dash and leave the upper metal section with the speaker grill etc. When welding it back in you have to make sure to space it to account for the kerf of whatever you used to make the cuts.

I replaced all the lower metal on mine from a donor car because of radio hole damage, damage from where someone tried to steal a tach out of it etc. Figured it was easier than trying to patch up the old dash in place.

Anyway, if it's just the dusty red surface rust, the dust brushes off pretty easy with a small wire brush, but it is tedious work on your back .... then blow it off with air and spray on some rust converter, it works real good on that kind of rust.

If I was in your shoes and the rust wasn't heavy, I'd leave it in place and spend some time on my back. If it's heavily pitted .... that would be your call on removing the structure.

Thanks for the info. My car is a convertible and it sat outside for many years. As you can imagine, I have a lot of rust in hidden places to deal with. I'm going to remove the entire structure. I think I'm going to take your advice on splitting under the dash pad. I'll post pictures after it's removed.

[dataway]

Basically just look for the shortest route between two points (that is covered by the padded dash) and cut there. I left the main braces to the kick panel area in place and made cuts in the area of the AC vents. It's really not connected by much when you get down to it.

Make some some marks to aid with proper alignment before you cut. Although probably not much of an issue when you are reusing what you cut out.