[GTOGEORGE]

Chief has said he has replaced everything under the car (basically a new car now) …....but not at the same time….chassis wasn’t working for him I guess!


GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

I would look on FACE BOOK at recent posts by Marty P and Justin S where Chief says the front engine section of the chassis was updated, the rear axle was changed, and the rest of the chassis in the drivers area is the same as when Jeff Covey built the double tube chassis years ago. SIMPLE and gets rid of the BS posts.

Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I would look on FACE BOOK at recent posts by Marty P and Justin S where Chief says the front engine section of the chassis was updated, the rear axle was changed, and the rest of the chassis in the drivers area is the same as when Jeff Covey built the double tube chassis years ago. SIMPLE and gets rid of the BS posts.

Tom V.

Nooooooo! LOL!
Luckily Tommy doesn’t have that problem……newer better chassis maybe!

GTO George

[Tom Vaught]

Marty just sent me a post made by Justin in the last few days that refutes your post George.

LOL!!!!!!!! So people, do you go on Face book and read Justin and Martys posts or
continue to read misinformation, your choice. Done with this one.

Tom V.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Marty just sent me a post made by Justin in the last few days that refutes your post George.

LOL!!!!!!!! So people, do you go on Face book and read Justin and Martys posts or
continue to read misinformation, your choice. Done with this one.

Tom V.

No my info came straight from Chief himself, he has a YouTube channel soooooo! Unless he is lying for whatever reason


GTO George

[Scott Roberts]

You two can debate chassis all night. The Pontiac can't compete with the the newest wiz bang chassis... it's a moot point

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

You two can debate chassis all night. The Pontiac can't compete with the the newest wiz bang chassis... it's a moot point

Yep!



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Just to get silly I wonder how quick Tommy could have went (with his Pontiac engine) if he hired Chief to tune his car for him……..with more hp and a better chassis (then Chief)………who know, would have been interesting!



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[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Just to get silly I wonder how quick Tommy could have went (with his Pontiac engine) if he hired Chief to tune his car for him……..with more hp and a better chassis (then Chief)………who know, would have been interesting!



GTO George

I agree. I'd think Tommy had something left on the table... Or E-heads are just that good!

[opeliac]

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

Some people who are posting just have an agenda and ignore the facts. Chief does not make the HP that Tommy's billet 505 Pontiac does.

Stan

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

From what I've seen, Chief has proved a 482 Pontiac can compete against all comers in the races he participates in. He is usually top three at most races he enters.

John Langer has competed against all brands in a heads class and has been successful, along with others in the past.. On a smaller scale Dick Fulton has "owned" an endurance race he competes in at a track in Minnesota, that is a heads up class and open to all makes.

A bit more to it than just which engine makes the most power, if that was the case EVERYONE would tie for first place..... GTOGEORGE has won races with his Pontiac in open classes.

It's amazing what can be accomplished once the chair in front of the "keyboards" is vacated.

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

From what I've seen, Chief has proved a 482 Pontiac can compete against all comers in the races he participates in. He is usually top three at most races he enters.

John Langer has competed against all brands in a heads class and has been successful, along with others in the past.. On a smaller scale Dick Fulton has "owned" an endurance race he competes in at a track in Minnesota, that is a heads up class and open to all makes.

A bit more to it than just which engine makes the most power, if that was the case EVERYONE would tie for first place..... GTOGEORGE has won races with his Pontiac in open classes.

It's amazing what can be accomplished once the chair in front of the "keyboards" is vacated.

Let’s not for get Kinsler won a Championship a couple years ago with a Pontiac! Pretty sure it had some Edelbrocks on it as well.

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

From what I've seen, Chief has proved a 482 Pontiac can compete against all comers in the races he participates in. He is usually top three at most races he enters.

John Langer has competed against all brands in a heads class and has been successful, along with others in the past.. On a smaller scale Dick Fulton has "owned" an endurance race he competes in at a track in Minnesota, that is a heads up class and open to all makes.

A bit more to it than just which engine makes the most power, if that was the case EVERYONE would tie for first place..... GTOGEORGE has won races with his Pontiac in open classes.

It's amazing what can be accomplished once the chair in front of the "keyboards" is vacated.

So are you saying that YOU think Chief's 482 edelbrock headed combo can be competitive against Yoman's Proline Hemi?

I think you know better than saying that.

[GTOGEORGE]

I don't think anyone is comparing Tommys Hemi to Chiefs Pontiac engine (at least I'm not)......I think when they are referring to Tommys car/engine its his old Warp 6 engine! Its too bad he switched to a Hemi. I love Pontiacs been racing them since the mid 70's, so I'm not knocking chiefs car (its a Pontiac) or his tuning abilities I thinks he is one of the best tuners out there and he got ALL he can out of his Pontiac combo 3.97 out of e heads freaking amazing!! How quick could he go with a Pontiac engine if he put a better set of heads on it (you know change he's combo), obviously he had to change his chassis to help him compete.
I can't stand watching all the Hemis out there now or the Chevy junks last year its cool to see other brands out there competing instead of following the leader and yes i know the racers want to win soooooo..........! Like NHRA did a long time ago to let small blocks compete with the big blocks in Pro Stock........ change/adjust the rules, it sure made Pro Stock more interesting back then! I hate long post and i know I'm kinda all over the place here but i got a lot on my mind..........kinda wanna go racing, i think it will be a good year.


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[Scott Stoneburg]

My take on this.... I don't know if he had tuned the 505 to run it's best but even if he didn't, it made like 3500 HP? That's a sh*t load no doubt. But the ProLine's ( Hemi or 481x ) make how much? 4000-4500? I have no idea how much they make truthfully. Now take into account that they are probably not using all that power for much of the run due to power management and making it stay hooked on a small tire. So "maybe" he could have been competitive with the Warp headed motor. But like has been mention before, if it breaks with a ProLine motor the parts are easily available. Not do much with a Pontiac based motor.

[ta man]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Why in the hell are people really trying to compare a cast edelbrock headed 482" Pontiac, against an all billet 540" Hemi??? Does it make you feel smart for saying the Hemi is faster?????

Also, so i'm fair here...If you are a Pontiac fan(which I am), and you are trying to act like the 482 in Chief's car makes the HP needed to compete with a billet Proline Hemi, then you are an idiot...

Sorry if this hurts anybody's feelings.

Exactly why Chief doesn't run NPK he doesn't have the HP to compete. On the streets its a different deal.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Scott Stoneburg

My take on this.... I don't know if he had tuned the 505 to run it's best but even if he didn't, it made like 3500 HP? That's a sh*t load no doubt. But the ProLine's ( Hemi or 481x ) make how much? 4000-4500? I have no idea how much they make truthfully. Now take into account that they are probably not using all that power for much of the run due to power management and making it stay hooked on a small tire. So "maybe" he could have been competitive with the Warp headed motor. But like has been mention before, if it breaks with a ProLine motor the parts are easily available. Not do much with a Pontiac based motor.

Is that ProLine HP number flywheel or rear wheel? Tommy's 3500 HP was rear wheel / on a hub dyno.

Stan

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Is that ProLine HP number flywheel or rear wheel? Tommy's 3500 HP was rear wheel / on a hub dyno.

Stan

Obviously you've never watched any of the hub dyno videos of twin blown hemis making 5000+HP

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Obviously you've never watched any of the hub dyno videos of twin blown hemis making 5000+HP

I got on youtube and did a search.....i saw one video 5,230 something hp, not a lot of info on boost and other things though. i saw more in the 3,000 range.


GTO George