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#41
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I'm using a SIMMS unit. You won't save money on it though. Not even sure they're still available.
Last edited by Bnick166; 12-28-2018 at 11:01 PM. |
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Some of these guys would be a real ball at parties eh? |
#43
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Pontiac used 2 different oil pump drive shafts, the stronger one were used for O-port engines.
D-port #534652, O-port #9794305. |
#44
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Driving down the road, and all of a sudden the lifters start clattering - that is a BAD feeling, even more so when it is in your daily driver.
That is what I experienced about 26 years ago, when I reused the oil pump driveshaft on a rebuild, and it broke about a year later. I have not reused an old shaft since then. CHEAP insurance against an easily avoidable failure.
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#45
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And when going out to dinner avoid drinking expensive ice tea for a week or so and one can cover the shipping costs on the nice billet piece
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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I have the sense that the "crappy" OEM driveshaft is the outlier, while the "HP" OEM shaft, the Melling, and the bling-y "billet" shafts are all functionally equivalent (i.e., they all work about the same.)
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#47
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once when priming an oil pump with an old screw driver and a drill I was unable to get the distributor in after. I had accidently spread the ears apart on the driveshaft. I managed to squeeze them back together and never failed but I probably just got lucky.
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Hehehe ... the old "squeeze the ears" trick ... that is truly living on the edge there
I forget where I got mine, but I think it was black and kind of shiny, think I got it from Butler. |
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Then there are folks who stress over an oil pump driveshaft bending, twisting or breaking so they buy a hardened one and then drive it with a polymer dist. gear.
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Stress proof is an excellent steel for oil pump drive shafts. Google it.
H-O oil pump driveshaft failures: We sourced RA4 driveshafts from GM and they forgot (?) to heat treat them. Unfortunately , some customers had driveshaft failures. We notified every customer who bought one and replaced every one, if the customer responded . It was at this time that we started making our own OS-11 shafts.
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I have to use a polymer gear because I am using a roller cam
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Yep that's pretty typical. 3 polymers here, no issues with those and I've been running something with a roller for close to 20 years. Can't say the same for oil pump shafts. Probably has a lot to do with the strength of the helicoil cut gears verses a couple of ears sticking out of a shaft.
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#53
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Agree, not related. I've never had a issue with the BOP poly gear with a 80 lb oil pump. Many others report similar.
Onward. .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE |
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I had one break, it cost me a 463 motor, not again.
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