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This is the base cap for 61-63 Tempest and LeMans. They are Tempest LeMans only and will not fit full size 63s.
Can you measure those?

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Can you measure those?
They are about 9" 5/16ths plus or minus 1/32? All my tape measures are worn out.

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They are about 9" 5/16ths plus or minus 1/32? All my tape measures are worn out.
Thanks a lot for measuring! I really appreciate it.
Hmmm, the guy at Wheelsmith said the only rims he can make accept a 10 1/8” cap. More investigation to do I guess. I don’t know if other Pontiac caps are those size or not.

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If you can get the correct caps and get the 61-63 wheels just have them widened?Job done?Back in early 60s I had Stockton wheel make me a pair of 14s as that was the only size small slick I could get at the time.Getting what you want amounts to just numbers in a check book.Tom

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If you can get the correct caps and get the 61-63 wheels just have them widened?Job done?Back in early 60s I had Stockton wheel make me a pair of 14s as that was the only size small slick I could get at the time.Getting what you want amounts to just numbers in a check book.Tom
I might have to look into this. I think Bman suggested this in one of the first posts.

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I have stock 61-62 wheels if you cant find them locally

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I have stock 61-62 wheels if you cant find them locally
What’s the difference between’61-62 and the 63’s?
I’m in the sticks, nothing local except tractor parts.

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What’s the difference between’61-62 and the 63’s?
I’m in the sticks, nothing local except tractor parts.
The 61 rims have clips for the poverty caps, both rim and caps are 1 year only parts. 62-3 use the same poverty cap as Drag Star Lemans showed in his pictures. 63 might use a wider rim, not sure. Will have to check the shop manuals to be sure.

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Next question-does anyone know of a place that can widen stock rims? Wheelsmith didn’t seem to really go this route? I could just run the stock width, but would like to get a little more rubber on the ground. Figured I’d start getting prices

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Stockton wheel �� n Calif

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You may want to research Stockton Wheel first.

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Stockton wheel �� n Calif
Tried them once back in 1999.

Never again.

There are so many other wheel shops to choose from, they made me wait 6 months after taking my money.

Who knows things may have changed over the years so do your own research.

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Sorry about the spelling!They did a set of wheels for a friend of mine last year with no issue?Its been 61 years since they did my wheels!Tom

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Yeah, the one thread I saw here mentioned Stockton wheel, but another member mentioned they had the worst customer service he’s ever seen. So I was hoping maybe someone had a recent good experience.

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An idea I had been kicking around is to make a poverty cap adapter for the Mopar wheel. Essentially this would be a laser cut ring then machined for bevels to allow the cap to snap onto the ring

This would be welded or bolted onto the wheel using a fixture.

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I’ve seen these before but would like to find a way to make early (‘63) full size dog dish caps work on a later style wheel.
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that’s pretty sneaky!
I’m guessing that is a F.A.S.T. (Factory Appearing Stock Tire) car.

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Mine are pontiac big car 10 1/8 inch on custom widened 10 in wide rims.

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Tried them once back in 1999.

Never again.

There are so many other wheel shops to choose from, they made me wait 6 months after taking my money.

Who knows things may have changed over the years so do your own research.
The guy who owned Stockton Wheel at that time died in around 2011, and they've been under new management since. My understanding is service was much improved. There have been a number of discussions about the company over on the HAMB board, a search there may turn up recent reports.

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