#1  
Old 05-23-2023, 11:22 AM
64Lemans 64Lemans is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 54
Default 69 Bird Headlight Parking Lamps and Marker Lights Question

Hello.
I've been working on fixing the wiring for the front end for some time now. I have finally gotten to the point where the parking lamps are working. Parking lights are on... directional works...the correct filaments are working when needed, etc... I replaced the headlight switch which solved most of my issues.
The passenger side marker light is lit...and works great. The only remaining issue I have is the driver side marker light. I know the socket and bulb are functional as ...when I was switching wires around, the light came on. But when I have the lamp / directional working the way it should, the marker light will not light up.
Looking at the wiring diagram, it looks like one wire is power and the other is going to the headlights. Is this a ground of some sort or ? Wondering if I could use the power from the parking lamp if needed. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled.png
Views:	22
Size:	295.2 KB
ID:	613095  

  #2  
Old 05-23-2023, 12:49 PM
JLMounce JLMounce is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Greeley, Colorado
Posts: 3,710
Send a message via AIM to JLMounce
Default

It's going to be a poor or non-existent ground somewhere. All of the lights up front are grounded to the same circuits.

If you're chopping into wires, re-arranging a bunch of stuff and fighting this, I'd highly recommend a new forward light harness. They are readily available, plug and play and aren't too expensive. If you've got enough going wrong there with the lights, I'd do the engine harness at the same time as they both exit the bulkhead connector.

Like you I fought lighting wiring for a long time. Putting new wiring in the car was one of the best things I did from a reliability and ease of use standpoint.

Edit: I should also point out that the bulbs themselves are part of the ground circuit. The bulbs ground to the contacts in the sockets and the sockets will also typically ground to the lenses (this may not be the case for the markers). If the bulbs or sockets aren't grounding properly, that will also cause the issues you're seeing.

__________________
-Jason
1969 Pontiac Firebird

Last edited by JLMounce; 05-23-2023 at 12:58 PM.
  #3  
Old 05-24-2023, 02:43 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

Unlike the fullsized cars and the LeMans and Tempest models in 69 the Firebird and the GTO need a ground wire for the parking lights because of how the housings are designed. The black wire in your diagram is the ground wire (the three black tapered dashes are the symbol for ground connection).

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:11 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017