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Keep working at this pace and soon you'll be using that "Walking Cane prop bar".
Last edited by Andretti; 07-19-2021 at 08:27 PM. |
#382
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I've been working on the door to fender gaps more and level matching as best as I can get at this point. I also mocked up both the GTO fender emblems as well as holding up the rocker moldings in place. Doing that showed me I needed to work both fenders a little more in the area where the patch panels were welded in. I used the shrinking disc some on both sides. On the passenger side fender, I had to twist the inside fender brace a little in order to get the rocker molding to sit flat. I also had to re-drill the holes on that fender for the emblem. They got welded up when I fixed the dent and the previous repair job there.
Here's the area where I welded to close the gap and correct the door to fender edge arc: And after: Welding shrinkage did cause the edge of the door to suck in a little which is normal. I used my slide hammer with this end on it to hook behind and pull back out. Here's the rear door edge now after a little more adjustment on the level. I make sure the door edge isn't any lower than the quarter panel as I don't want a very high build of primer at the edge. OK to have the quarter a bit lower though since it's not a problem to have a primer build up some there. On the driver side, I did weld a very small amount to make the top of door edge match the fender arc perfectly. I'm seeing a nice look down the sides of the car now even before primer: I'm now happy with all the gaps and levels of the hood, fenders and doors and I'm calling them ready for primer. So now on to the nose and trunk lid next. I'm still waiting on the delivery of the 3M flexible filler for the nose so I'll start on fitting the trunk lid tomorrow.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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#383
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Looking good and neat tips of the trade. Thanks for sharing.
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#384
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You do some amazing work Roger...great attention to detail. As mentioned, it will have better than factory tolerances.
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Nice. Love to see the attention to detail!
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Thanks! Just a self trained hobbyist so I might not always do things the best way but proud to show how I do do things. Quote:
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO Last edited by roger1; 07-24-2021 at 10:12 AM. |
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I hadn't posted any close-up photos of the nose fit yet.
It does look very good at a little distance: But here are the areas that will need some filler: I went back and re-read what Barry (owner of SPI) recommends for Endura bumpers (and he's done several of these). He recommends 4 coats of epoxy primer and it should be done before any filler is put on. Since blasting the bumper left it a little blotchy looking (may have been the coal slag media I used), I I sanded it with a D/A everywhere I could get to and by hand everywhere else to get it all uniform looking. And then I wiped it down with waterborne W&G remover. After that, I put it out in the sun to speed up the evaporation of the W&G remover that soaked in. Barry recommends that if you are going to shoot the epoxy the next morning. Here it is in the sun yesterday. I also took a few photos of what appears like cracks in the rubber. After analyzing them closely, I don't believe these are cracks at all. You can't make the rubber move independently on each side of these cracks no matter what you do. I think this is what happens to the rubber from oxidation when the paint cracks and allows air to hit the rubber along the cracked paint. You can hit this rubber with a hammer and it won't crack. But the slightest flexing of the rubber cracks the factory paint and primer. Add time and you get the oxidized rubber that looks and might even feel like a crack but it's not. That tells me these cracks don't need to be ground out in a V shape and filled. I've seen that stated and I disagree. The 4 coats of epoxy will be all that's required to cover them up. I got the 4 coats on this morning. Waited 45 minutes between coats. Wow! It seemed as if I was painting a sponge with the first coat! Starts looking good after the 3rd coat though. I can see why he recommends 4. I sprayed the rear side too. I'll let this cure for a couple of days before blocking and adding any filler. I had to re-order the 3M Automix 05887 flexible filler but it will be here tomorrow. The first order (AutoBodyToolmart) had it backordered until December and didn't let me know until I called and asked why I hadn't received it yet. I wont ever order from them again.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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Got the nose fitted the way I want using flexible filler.
This is the 3M filler I used. I bought the applicator as well:
I did not use those mixing tubes came with since I only needed to use a little at a time. I did end up using more than 3/4 of this 200ml cartridge but about as much gets sanded off than stays on the nose. First thing I did is apply some to the insides of both sides of the nose to stiffen it up some. The rubber flexed there more than I wanted. I used masking tape behind it to help hold in the filler until it hardened. So here it is all done. Quite a few hours of work. After those photos, I removed the nose to smooth out the areas where I had squeezed in filler on the back side where the nose meets the fenders. I also removed the passenger fender and mocked up the inner fender and A/C evaporator housing. I wanted to see why a previous owner cut a hole in the inner fender. I don't know why Pontiac assembles the car this way but they way that did it requires that the fender and inner fender to be removed just to get to one nut that is screwed onto a stud that holds the inner housing where the heater core is. So I made a modification. I removed the stud from the inner housing and then used JB Weld to attach a bolt to the outer housing. Problem solved. Now the nut will be on the inside and have easy access. I am going to put in a new heater core. Even though it had been replaced in the past, it looked like it had been in there a long time. I'll replace the blower motor as well. I'd rather have new since the fender has to be removed to replace. Plus the wheel is rusted badly. I took the outer housing apart and removed the evaporator. I'm going to replace it since it's the 52 year old original. Doesn't look like a whole lot of air could get through it. I bet the A/C wasn't working too well the last time it was used. I wonder if it was leaking slowly. Not sure how that oily dirt would get in there if it weren't.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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Wow, great fit on the Endura Bumper! When you headed up to Jersey to coach me on my ‘68 Resto? 😁
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You know me, "Safety Forst" 68 GTO-Verdoro/Black/Black, what else was available in ‘68? Has to be longest resto in history. 69 GTO Vert-Liberty/Blue/White Top, 4spd, match #’s 68 Mustang FB-Green/Black (Bullitt) |
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I don't think it's in the cards for me to go to Jersey so I guess you are going to have to move to San Angelo.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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Fair enough, I’ll use this thread as a reference then. 😁
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You know me, "Safety Forst" 68 GTO-Verdoro/Black/Black, what else was available in ‘68? Has to be longest resto in history. 69 GTO Vert-Liberty/Blue/White Top, 4spd, match #’s 68 Mustang FB-Green/Black (Bullitt) |
#392
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Yeah Rodger, maybe you could give a class on how to install a endura bumper??? My gaps are 1/2-5/8 easily and I spent hours. Mind you my first A-body but still wtf???? Ugh
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#393
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I'm waiting for the painting process, so hurry up, I want you to get there before I make any mistakes
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I’ll put in a second request for New Jersey. Great looking work!!! Marc
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I will fly you to MA and provide 4-star accommodations if you'll align my nose JUST. LIKE. THAT.....LOL
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#396
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Thanks to all you guys for your comments. Really, I wish I could help each one of you. All I can say is it's not particularly hard but it takes patience and quite a bit of time. OTOH, I'm working on a car where the car has never taken an impact to the front and that could make a huge difference.
I say take the job on, post a thread and ask for help along the way.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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After watching you do yours... I'm confident with enough patience and practice I could totally do it. I'm sure your pictures of a bad quarter panel followed by a 95% done quarter followed by a ready for paint quarter panel took around 10+ hours of work that isn't reflected. And that you get better at it the more you try!
I have a '71 I need to fix the quarters on and your thread gives me confidence in my ability to learn and fix it and eventually paint it... provided my body holds up ;-) Great work, that nose is amazingly well fit. I would almost say "better than factory" fit! |
#398
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I know what you mean about body holding up. Doing those quarters killed my lower back by leaning over while sitting on a rolling stool for so many days. I bought a contraption that rolls while resting you your knees. It was better but I think I found a good solution in a new creeper I just bought. It's called the 2-up and both ends can tilt up allowing a sit just above the floor with back support and legs stretched out. I wished I had had this when doing the quarters.
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'69 GTO Convertible - Acquired October 2020. An all original project car. Restomod is underway PROJECT THREAD '83 Chevy Choo Choo SS El Camino - LT1 350/4L60e, Owned for 30 Years, completed 2nd restomod in 2018 PHOTO 2019 BMW 440ix - Twin turbo I6, 8spd auto. PHOTO '55 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe - Ram Jet 350 / T56 Magnum 6spd, Restomod Completed Sept. 2012, Sold Sept. 2021 PHOTO |
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#399
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That is a nice creeper. Wonder if it's available with heat and massage?
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