[johnta1]

I think you are right, I should have said that.

P - Muncie
9 - model year
M - Aug
28 - date

Since Aug 69 would be too late for the 69 Bird, would have been 1968.

[A Schab]

Muncie's started getting the A (M 20),B (M 21),C (M 22) codes in late oct. 68.

[FunctionalShaker]

Baron, you're right about the tranny dates: They were stamped for the year of vehicle rather than the date of manufacture. It's amazing how early some parts were made. One really notices this dealing with '70 model cars.

This is like someone opening a treasure chest and all his buddies standing around to ogle what's inside.

[sehorn]

My research has indicated that it's a 69' tranny made in 68'. If it was made in 69' it would have an extra letter. So it wasn't made after the car.

Link: http://www.5speeds.com/muncie2.htm

Also, there were only a little over 200 manual Ram Air 3's made at the Van Nuys plant.

[Held for Ransom]

http://www.forums.maxperformanceinc....d.php?t=517870

Here's a couple PHS invoices.

[sehorn]

PHS Documents:

Also didn't realize that out of the nearly 1,500 Ram Air 3's made 697 of them were TA's. That means there are only about 800 "Firebird" Ram Air 3's. This one was made in Van Nuys where only 146 Ram Air manuals were made.

[74SDformula]

Thanks for posting the PHS. Once again, congratulations on the purchase.

[muscle_collector]

very nice.

[keith k]

Definitely has the good stuff. Thanks for posting-

[FunctionalShaker]

So, it appears the rally rims aren't original to the car. I wonder if whoever swapped them out put the correct for 69 JKs on it? Interesting that they put the 55 amp alternator on a non A/C car. Nicely optioned car. Good it was saved. Does it have the 1 inch front stabilizer bar, like the T/A?

[sehorn]

Originally Posted by FunctionalShaker

So, it appears the rally rims aren't original to the car. I wonder if whoever swapped them out put the correct for 69 JKs on it? Interesting that they put the 55 amp alternator on a non A/C car. Nicely optioned car. Good it was saved. Does it have the 1 inch front stabilizer bar, like the T/A?

The wheels are some extras I had and put on so that I could get the car rolling on the trailer. The wheels on the car were steel 15" wheels with hubcaps that say PMD on them, not sure if they are original or not.

I'll check the stabilizer bar.

Also, got the car running yesterday. It runs very smooth and after a while it got to where it wasn't smoking at all. I put in the Marvel Mystery oil (let it sit for a few days), changed the oil, put in some 100 octane since it's 10.75 compression, filed the points and it fired right up after 30 years. I have no questions that the 82k on the odometer is the correct mileage.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by sehorn

The wheels on the car were steel 15" wheels with hubcaps that say PMD on them, not sure if they are original or not.

15s would not be original.

Cool that you got it running.

[FunctionalShaker]

Hub caps sound right. You sure the rims aren't 14 inchers?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

WoW thats great and amazing it cranked/ran so easy - and so good.
At minimum i'm surprised the fuel pump and carb would still function.

I never liked any of the hubcaps in 69-70. Puppycaps look okay on 69's.
If the rims turn out to be 14" - check all the codes and dates around the valve stems - they might be original wheels.

Thanks for posting the PHS for us. Its the real deal all the way.
Sure does have a lotta lights ! Always handy.

[74SDformula]

Just curious about something on the PHS. It shows a glove box lamp, code 664, for $3.16. I was looking over on the firstgen site and their list of accessory options shows the glove box lamp is standard equipment on a 400 car if I am reading it right. So what's the deal?

[1969 Ram Air]

Originally Posted by sehorn

PHS Documents:

Also didn't realize that out of the nearly 1,500 Ram Air 3's made 697 of them were TA's. That means there are only about 800 "Firebird" Ram Air 3's. This one was made in Van Nuys where only 146 Ram Air manuals were made.

That's a nice list of options. Great color combo too.

[Jim Robertson]

Very Nice find and very much enjoyed reading about it. Thanks for posting. Special car indeed.

[Ram4king]

Thats a very cool car you have found there.

[Ron Fox]

Great find! Keep us posted with pics.

Thanks.

[sehorn]

Originally Posted by 74SDformula

Just curious about something on the PHS. It shows a glove box lamp, code 664, for $3.16. I was looking over on the firstgen site and their list of accessory options shows the glove box lamp is standard equipment on a 400 car if I am reading it right. So what's the deal?

No idea. After doing tons of research I have found a fair amount of conflicting information.

The steel wheels and hubcaps are 14" ( will post pics later, pretty ugly), not 15 as I stated earlier. The sway bar is not 1", seems to be about 3/4".