[455Grandville]

Ended up looking at some car parts recently, turned out to be an old co worker who I never had a good opinion of. We talked about the old shop closing and then he said something that really bothered me :

When I asked about his old back problems (as I had 'em too) he told me he was getting near $2,000/mo plus a month plus his ex was getting $800/mo for child support in a shady way. He had no problem lifting things (heavy intakes, etc) and said he has 100s of C/L ads and a huge storage building out back filled with stuff he sells and bragged about the cash money he makes.

I have no problem with someone getting disability if they are disabled, clearly this guy is not. I even checked his number on C/L and he has 150 ads and has been doing this for years he says. Things like this really hits a nerve with me. It costs everyone money.

Who do I call and do they pursue this and do they take fraud seriously ?

[BOB VIDAN]

I personally frown on anybody taking advantage of others busting their a** to make ends met. I don't know who you would go to on this but I think it should be "verified". Have a distant friend who according to "our" government is 210% disabled. He is messed up but how are you 210%? I would have thought at 100% you'd be dead but I guess I just don't understand the new math.

[hurryinhoosier62]

Brad,

You contact the local Social Security office in that area. They will take a statement from you and assign an investigator. Be advised: the process is VERY slow. Stories like this anger me because of the folks I know like my uncle that had to fight YEARS in order to even get SSDI benefits.

[Sirrotica]

Social Security Disability Insurance, if that's what he's getting paid from they take a dim view of people defrauding the system. I'm on it because of some injuries long ago, back shoulder and knee, and two I had since 2008 left foot and left wrist. I had to get X rays and doctor statements to get it and prove I actually was unable to work because of these injuries. Maybe when your former co-worker got it it was easier to get it at that point, not sure.

Here's the link to report fraud to the social security administration: http://oig.ssa.gov/report-fraud-waste-or-abuse

[JLHarper]

OIG...Office of Inspector General....Google...

They even have fed offices setup in States with high fraud like Kentucky.

Over 9,000,000 have received SS Disability, and during the last six years its jumped considerably (bty, its based on what you have paid in ).

Once approved after few years, a person can be eligible for Medicare (free healthcare).

Many have called it the "new white welfare" since so many middle age whites are out of work for various reasons, and Doctors sign their papers for application....booze, depression, drug addiction, back problems (a big one), nerve pain, obesity all may contribute to other health problems that may get you on, if approved.

Search for some of the recent stories....you will be amazed, heres one;

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/soc...2/17/id/542390

The New White Welfare (one of dozens of articles..take your pick)

http://whiteplains.patch.com/groups/...he-new-welfare

http://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/blog/july17-post

PS: and I understand many actually "need" disability, and have legit health problems.....this isnt about them.

[fiedlerh]

Talking to a garage sale customer and as he was loading some furniture he bragged that he was on permanent SS disability because of back problems. I asked if he could survive on that, and he said he made extra cash collecting a couple of tons of scrap per week.

[salem1912]

Just have the Office of Inspector General agent answer a CL ad for a engine block or transmission he is selling that should do it. He's just sucking money from you,me and people that really deserve it.

[6t7gto]

Check out this one...

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/ve...ability-claim/

[The Boss]

When did this country loose it's self respect???

[Rob B]

Originally Posted by The Boss

When did this country loose it's self respect???

LBJ.

[2002Z4CSS]

Make the call. He wil be investigated and probably loose his free money.

[67_Krewzer]

Originally Posted by salem1912

Just have the Office of Inspector General agent answer a CL ad for a engine block or transmission he is selling that should do it. He's just sucking money from you,me and people that really deserve it.

X 2

[SRR]

I would wait a couple months so he doesn't tie it to you. He's not going to be a happy camper after his meal ticket gets cut off.

[Icefan71]

Why does it seem like people who rip off the gov't have such any easy time doing it? While those that truly need it are the ones waiting and waiting. And for those that are getting away with it, why the hell would you shoot your stupid mouth off to people?

[Deadhead]

Originally Posted by salem1912

Just have the Office of Inspector General agent answer a CL ad for a engine block or transmission he is selling that should do it. He's just sucking money from you,me and people that really deserve it.

Private insurers and Govt. insurers alike do this, so it is worth reporting. I have known Ins. investigators who follow people in cars like PIs. Think of how much it saves just getting one able bodied person off the dole. On the other hand the unemployment numbers…

I have heard ads encouraging people to report SSI and Medicare fraud on the tube lately too. Keep your ears open for that.

[fasteddy]

I do not like free-loaders. But, if you liked the guy, would you still turn him in? I would more rather see this guy get assistance than the millions of illegals that have never paid in one penny to the system. Just sayin'

[hurryinhoosier62]

Originally Posted by Rob B

LBJ.

Earlier. Rob. FDR.

[72projectbird]

Not trying to be political, but here it goes:

It happens everywhere. If you rat this guy out, there is another 1000 ready to take his place. Sad but true. How about all those people using two or three different last names collecting unemployment, social security, food stamps, ebt cards, free phones etc etc.

It happens every day, all day. You can drive through "urban" cities and see people lined up around the block with their hands out, taking from the govt. It doesn't change. People use dead peoples SSN's, and nobody in local state government blinks an eye. Or how about giving illegals in state tuition, while legal citizens have to pay a premium? Or how about the people who are overweight applying for handicap placards, or refuse to walk in a store?

Or how about those divorced parents taking massive amounts of child support from the other parent, only to spend it on stuff they want, and not on the child? This is argued about in court every day, but nothing changes.

People abuse the system, legal or illegal. It doesn't matter. You can get worked up about it all you want, but nobody who should be listening is.

As for selling stuff on the side, who cares? People do it every day. Granted, he seems to be selling a whole lot of stuff, but that's his prerogative. Good for him making money without having the government having its hand out, taking some of his money.

Bottom line: He played the state and federal government, and so far he's winning.

[Bob Dillon]

Ir's "lose," you knuckleheads, not "loose."

Yeesh.

[Bob Hall]

Originally Posted by Bob Dillon

Ir's "lose," you knuckleheads, not "loose."

Yeesh.

Ahem.....It's. Not Ir's