[455Grandville]

Ford Motor companies stock has dropped noticeably ; anyone know what’s going on ??

Bought some stock at 10.47 but I’m wondering.

[400 4spd.]

I'll speculate the aluminum and steel situation is the cause.

[johnta1]

Last month they had a bad earnings report.
Then the 'tariffs' came about.

Auto stocks and parts will probably all not be a good investment right now?

[MYGOAT]

This would not have helped.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/f...or-123730.html

[Simple Man]

Dropped noticeably? Time to buy!

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

Ford Motor companies stock has dropped noticeably ; anyone know what’s going on ??

Bought some stock at 10.47 but I’m wondering.

When did you buy? Because it currently is at $10.73 - so it's worth more than you paid for it.

But Ford stock hasn't been doing well for years. Five years ago it was trading at $13.45. It had a good run from March of '13 until the middle of '15. In July of '14 it was trading at $17.72. But it's been mostly down hill for the last 3 years.

Avoid Ford Motor Company Stock — Now and in the Foreseeable Future
Ford stock is doomed to face persistent headwinds into the foreseeable future

https://investorplace.com/2018/03/av.../#.WqPyZ-j4-Uk

[Mister Pontiac]

Definitely been in a long-term downtrend, but looks like it's showing a short term double bottom just above $10.00. That's a possible sign of bottoming out. It certainly has taken a beating lately.

I'm not sure how many shares you own, but if you like the stock and don't mind holding it, I would rent it out to make some cashflow while you wait for it to make up its mind which way it's going. April 20 $11.00 Calls (0.35 delta) would have paid $0.18 yesterday. That's a decent ROI.

Selling Covered Calls is one of favorite monthly cashflow strategies in the market.

[tom s]

My ,thoughts.Are they going to go away?I doubt it.Not far from their 52 week low.I might jump in for a little as at the range it pays more than a 5% div.Only rub is how long they can continue the div.Tom

[GT182]

"You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, know when to run."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7Sx62plCw

[694.1]

Trade ya for my GE

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by 694.1

Trade ya for my GE

You have my condolences

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Mister Pontiac

Definitely been in a long-term downtrend, but looks like it's showing a short term double bottom just above $10.00. That's a possible sign of bottoming out. It certainly has taken a beating lately.

I'm not sure how many shares you own, but if you like the stock and don't mind holding it, I would rent it out to make some cashflow while you wait for it to make up its mind which way it's going. April 20 $11.00 Calls (0.35 delta) would have paid $0.18 yesterday. That's a decent ROI.

Selling Covered Calls is one of favorite monthly cashflow strategies in the market.

I don’t have an issue holding it. Wife and I took some online classes and we’ve made some nice extra $$$

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Mister Pontiac

Definitely been in a long-term downtrend, but looks like it's showing a short term double bottom just above $10.00. That's a possible sign of bottoming out. It certainly has taken a beating lately.

I'm not sure how many shares you own, but if you like the stock and don't mind holding it, I would rent it out to make some cashflow while you wait for it to make up its mind which way it's going. April 20 $11.00 Calls (0.35 delta) would have paid $0.18 yesterday. That's a decent ROI.

Selling Covered Calls is one of favorite monthly cashflow strategies in the market.

Originally Posted by The Champ

When did you buy? Because it currently is at $10.73 - so it's worth more than you paid for it.

But Ford stock hasn't been doing well for years. Five years ago it was trading at $13.45. It had a good run from March of '13 until the middle of '15. In July of '14 it was trading at $17.72. But it's been mostly down hill for the last 3 years.



https://investorplace.com/2018/03/av.../#.WqPyZ-j4-Uk

I’ve read several articles speculating what will happen on the steel Tariffs in regards to Ford but why dont they mention GM, Chrysler & the many “foreign” cars made here ?

[Hooter]

I bought 2,000 shares at $1.65 when the market tanked a few years ago. Been a nice investment. Had hopes it would hit $20 back then. Still hoping....

[johnta1]

If you bought amazon back then it would be worth about 5 times more now. (or more)

[Simple Man]

Originally Posted by 694.1

Trade ya for my GE

I'm in that same boat. Looked good for years............

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

I’ve read several articles speculating what will happen on the steel Tariffs in regards to Ford but why dont they mention GM, Chrysler & the many “foreign” cars made here ?

Fords downturn started long before the steel/aluminum tariffs were announced.

Ford closed at $10.29 Thursday March first and was $10.73 at close on last Friday - trading higher after the tariffs were announced.

From my linked article - one of the reasons that makes the author negative on Ford is the fact that Ford is so far behind in electric car technology. GM is light years ahead of Ford in the electric car market. I personally have no interest in an electric car, but realize that it is a growth market for many urban markets.

In the long-term, Ford is staring at two major headwinds in the form of Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) and Uber. Tesla is pioneering a new era of electric vehicles, wherein Ford stands to lose significant auto market share.

Ford stock won’t head higher against the backdrop of falling car ownership rates and rising Tesla adoption.

Ford's best selling electric plug in was the Ford Fusion Energi - with 2017 sales of 9,632.

Tesla's top seller was the Model S with over 27,000

GM's Bolt sold over 23,000

Toyota's Prius Prime sold nearly 21,000

Nissan's Leaf sold over 11,000

Bottom line, while Tesla, GM and Toyota are consistently selling plugins by the 1,000's, Ford is selling them by the 100's.

The article is strictly about Ford - that's why GM and Chrysler aren't specifally mentioned in it. But the reference to other auto makers was made:

That downward spiral has accelerated recently as Gary Cohn, Trump’s top economic adviser who was widely seen as the last man standing in the way of steel and aluminum tariffs, has left the White House. Now, hefty tariffs on aluminum and steel imports look like a done deal. That is bad for auto manufacturers like Ford.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Fords downturn started long before the steel/aluminum tariffs were announced.

Ford closed at $10.29 Thursday March first and was $10.73 at close on last Friday - trading higher after the tariffs were announced.

From my linked article - one of the reasons that makes the author negative on Ford is the fact that Ford is so far behind in electric car technology. GM is light years ahead of Ford in the electric car market. I personally have no interest in an electric car, but realize that it is a growth market for many urban markets.



Ford's best selling electric plug in was the Ford Fusion Energi - with 2017 sales of 9,632.

Tesla's top seller was the Model S with over 27,000

GM's Bolt sold over 23,000

Toyota's Prius Prime sold nearly 21,000

Nissan's Leaf sold over 11,000

Bottom line, while Tesla, GM and Toyota are consistently selling plugins by the 1,000's, Ford is selling them by the 100's.

The article is strictly about Ford - that's why GM and Chrysler aren't specifally mentioned in it. But the reference to other auto makers was made:

But how would selling more electric cars which are small in sales compared to full size trucks , SUVs and crossovers cause this ?

I don’t even know anyone at work or have any friends with an electric car , although one new guy had a Leaf and it did run out of juice on him a few times em route the work in the hood before he wised up and bought a gasser, so I thought it was utterly useless.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

But how would selling more electric cars which are small in sales compared to full size trucks , SUVs and crossovers ?

I don’t even know anyone at work or have any friends with an electric car , although one new guy had a Leaf and it did run out of juice on him a few times em route the work in the hood before he wised up and bought a gasser, so I thought it was utterly useless.

For you and I, living in "flyover" country, an electric car just isn't a real viable option. I just saw my first Tesla in Rochester, MN last week...

But for those living in the highly populated coastal areas (east and west), they are increasingly popular.

Whether we like them or not, for many the electric vehicle is the future.

Do you remember the Chevy Volt thread from several years ago? Many folks were making fun of the sales numbers back in 2011 when Chevy was selling 100's of them per month (7,671 for the year). Funny thing - starting in 2012 they were selling 1,000's of them (23,741).

Chevy sold over 20,000 Volts last year - and the Volt has been superceded by the Bolt as the top seller - with 23,297 in 2017 (in December they sold 3,227 Bolts).

As to the profitability of trucks, SUV's and crossovers - Ford's domestic sales in 2018 for these vehicles are down 4.1% for the year whereas GM is up by 3.2%. Overall, Ford sales are down by 6..6% and their market share has gone down from 15.3 to 14.4.

http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2...autosales.html

The respective earnings and projections for Ford and GM are polar opposites:

General Motors (GM) on Tuesday said 2017 earnings were at the end high of its expected range and also gave bullish guidance for 2018 and next year. After the market close, Ford Motor (F) gave preliminary 2017 earnings figures that were below consensus while forecasting weaker earnings this year.

https://www.investors.com/news/gener...for-2018-2019/

[Simple Man]

Electric cars get real popular when gas prices get to $3.50+ a gallon. But with prices in the mid $2.00 range, most people don't care. They forget all about them.