[Diego]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Sidebar: check out those hood mounted tach numbers.

7,474 GTOs came with hood tach in '69, which was a much larger percentage of total production.

[dataway]

Gonna sound like I'm a smart ass. ..but I love it when there is a "debate" the big guns haul out their info and sources and the "audience" learns a lot. I've even taken notes on numerous threads
JohnnyB

[Diego]

Well, I don't think there's a competition here. There are some people who have extensive experience dismantling these cars and knowing what's correct. I don't know that stuff, but I can offer the luck I've had of establishing a connection with the GM Heritage Center. If we all put out heads together, we learn more about these cars and improve the hobby for all.

I can only speak for myself, but this is what keeps us going.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by GTOLIB

BOSS Is this car still around ?

Unfortunately I don't believe it survived, Jeff would know more about it's history. I think the motor for it ended up in his 69 Firebird for it's racing career.

http://www.pontiaction.net/

[The Boss]

No competition here - Diego's shared some very valuable information that goes against conventional wisdom and some long standing impressions. Nothing beats good documentation!

[joe'sgto]

This was my brothers car who past away a few months ago and left me the GTO. All we are asking if anybody knows how many HO 4 speed chrome front bumper cars were made. Not looking how rare, valuable or if you like the chrome bumpers or not. The GTO will never be for sale! So who cares whats its worth.

Also trying to find out the color of the GTO, but we think we have it.

This GTO was special ordered with special ordered paint color.

[Diego]

Sorry about your brother's passing, but I don't think that number exists. It may not have even been documented by Pontiac.

[joe'sgto]

Originally Posted by Diego

Sorry about your brother's passing, but I don't think that number exists. It may not have even been documented by Pontiac.

Thanks

Thats seems to be the what we are coming up with.

Now just to find out the paint code or color.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by joe'sgto

This was my brothers car...

...This GTO was special ordered with special ordered paint color.

Are you talking about the same car that GTOLIB is asking about ?
Or is yours a different car ?

Here are the 4 more typical Special Paint colors in 68.
But not limited to these 4 ("spring colors")

[joe'sgto]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Are you talking about the same car that GTOLIB is asking about ?
Or is yours a different car ?

Here are the 4 more typical Special Paint colors in 68.
But not limited to these 4 ("spring colors")

Yes we are. GTOLIB and I bin great friends all my life. He is helping me with the GTO.
The GTO original color looks to be very close to British green.

[joe'sgto]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Are you talking about the same car that GTOLIB is asking about ?
Or is yours a different car ?

Here are the 4 more typical Special Paint colors in 68.
But not limited to these 4 ("spring colors")

Yes same car.

[joe'sgto]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Are you talking about the same car that GTOLIB is asking about ?
Or is yours a different car ?

Here are the 4 more typical Special Paint colors in 68.
But not limited to these 4 ("spring colors")

yes same car.

[joe'sgto]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Are you talking about the same car that GTOLIB is asking about ?
Or is yours a different car ?

Here are the 4 more typical Special Paint colors in 68.
But not limited to these 4 ("spring colors")

yes it is the same car

[Diego]

Originally Posted by joe'sgto

Yes we are. GTOLIB and I bin great friends all my life. He is helping me with the GTO.
The GTO original color looks to be very close to British green.

Well, the GTO already had Nightshade Green, which is a very dark green.



However, there also was a British Racing Green which was a Corvette color and I think was introduced mid-year for the Camaro.



FWIW, Sequoia Green is the same as Nightshade Green.

[68gtoMN]

Well, I would like to chime in on Night Shade Green as I own two original NSG cars -= rare color. The paint shown in the attached pictures is NOT nightshade green. Not a chance. There is MUCH too much blue (teal) in the paint. Night Shade Green was, essentially, a charcoal grey metallic with a dark green tint. I LOVE the color but this picture does not show NSG paint code V. NSG seems to "change" color depending on lighting with people citing GREEN in some conditions, GREY in others... Below are two pictures of NSG cars - one in sunlight and one under fluorescent lighting

[GTOLIB]

how about something like this ,the car before the last 2 paint jobs was close to this color

http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...=43496&rows=50

this cross reverence chart to a color close to it ,Acme Rogers paint code 5301,,,,,,, B 1-53
is it possible they even used Acme Rogers paint

[joe'sgto]

If the build sheet is on top of the gas tank. Do you guys think the paint code will be on that?

[joe'sgto]

Here's the car in 1983 - 84, I think the graphics are on the original paint. Not 100% Trying to contact the owner.
sorry of the bad picture. but thats all we have.

[The Boss]

COOL GRAPHICS!!!

Post up more of those if you have them!

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by GTOLIB

68 was a turning point it seems ,still has that wood grain dash,vent windows etc ,still a Lemans.

In that case, there was no GTO before '69.

Originally Posted by dataway

Personally I believe that a GTO with a chrome nose is a Lemans with a GTO engine.

But I only say that because I am a Endura/Hideaway snob.

JohnnyB

A GTO is a LeMans with a GTO engine....and maybe a rubber bumper after '67...lol