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Old 03-15-2023, 11:24 AM
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Is there any type of gasket that fits between the front of the fender and the bumper of the 69 GTO ?
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No there is nothing between the rubber bumper and fenders on a 69 GTO.

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Old 03-15-2023, 11:42 AM
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No there is nothing between the rubber bumper and fenders on a 69 GTO.
Thanks for the response. I work on a lot of Mopar cars and they use them on about every piece that fits to the body.

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Fender and nose shouldn't touch to allow for frame/body flexing.

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Fender and nose shouldn't touch to allow for frame/body flexing.
How much space between them? Most I have seen look like there very close if not touching.

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Others on here more qualified than me but I'd suspect if a piece of paper can slide between then you are good.

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I have a little less then 1/8 of an inch
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I have a little less then 1/8 of an inch
Thank you! These cars are incredibly different than any I have done. And much more difficult I might add. I have restored several Mopars (including a 70 Superbird) and Chevelle's, Vettes and a bunch of Ford products. But never anything like this car. Even the door panels seem to be a bigger pain than the others. I do thank you all for any help.

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These cars are by far the hardest to line up then any other makes I have worked with. I have seen quite a few guys mess them up pretty bad over the years unfortunately as well.

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These cars are by far the hardest to line up then any other makes I have worked with. I have seen quite a few guys mess them up pretty bad over the years unfortunately as well.
I did a pre fit before doing body work as the car was in pieces when I got it. It had been in the trees for years so a lot of parts were gone. So one fender the hood and the front wheel wells the grills the back seat and dash were from a different car.
To me most GM cars are hard to line up. I had a lot of issues with the 71 Chevelle as well. And also a Camaro I did years ago. Mostly with the front end. GM mounts the hood hinges to the fender where Ford and Mopar mount them to an inner fender that is welded in place. So the hood lines up much easier and the fenders really have no bearing on the hinges. At any rate I will get it right (with a little help from people that know the Pontiac line on here)
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I did a pre fit before doing body work as the car was in pieces when I got it. It had been in the trees for years so a lot of parts were gone. So one fender the hood and the front wheel wells the grills the back seat and dash were from a different car.
To me most GM cars are hard to line up. I had a lot of issues with the 71 Chevelle as well. And also a Camaro I did years ago. Mostly with the front end. GM mounts the hood hinges to the fender where Ford and Mopar mount them to an inner fender that is welded in place. So the hood lines up much easier and the fenders really have no bearing on the hinges. At any rate I will get it right (with a little help from people that know the Pontiac line on here)
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make sure when you mount this for the final alignment the car's sitting down on its wheels and weighted with the engine is in place. the body flexes quite a bit and the nose pulls away from the fenders when up on a jack and can pull away from the fender a good 1/2", especially if the body mounts aren't new and tight. (so basically if you adjust it to a perfect fit up in the air, when you drop the car on the ground the nose will be mashing into the fenders. These did come with gaskets on the chrome bumper versions of 68/69 Lemans, but as said, the endura nose cars did not use them. you'll find the gaskets advertised as for GTO but that's incorrect. (unless you happen to have a rare version of the 68 GTO with chrome bumper option variety)

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But what do you do if the space between fender and bumper is excessive? I see that on a lot of cars. My bumper brackets contact the core support and the bumper can't be pushed back any closer. Am I supposed to pull the fenders forward? My car is like the OPs, it was rebuilt with body parts from different cars and it was pretty bashed up in the junkyard it ended up in. If I pull the fenders forward the door gaps will be huge. I was thinking of surgery on the bumper brackets.

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What we did on mine actually was cut a small section out of the brackets re-welded them and slot the holes on the front and rear bumpers to get a good fit. We spent about 2 weeks doing that.

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But what do you do if the space between fender and bumper is excessive? I see that on a lot of cars. My bumper brackets contact the core support and the bumper can't be pushed back any closer. Am I supposed to pull the fenders forward? My car is like the OPs, it was rebuilt with body parts from different cars and it was pretty bashed up in the junkyard it ended up in. If I pull the fenders forward the door gaps will be huge. I was thinking of surgery on the bumper brackets.
Wow that's odd. I have close to 3/4 an inch between my core support and bumper brackets. How does the bumper fit against the hood? I wonder if the middle of the bumper is bent in or the brackets are bent back? This is my 3rd 69 and all three were never that close.

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