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Old 12-11-2022, 10:57 AM
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Default 1965 GTO on BaT

Cool one owner Survivor.

Factory Paint, Interior and Powertrain.

Great documentation, plus rare Royal Bobcat information and literature.
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Old 12-11-2022, 11:52 AM
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389 4 bbl, 3 speed stick; 90k miles.

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Old 12-11-2022, 12:13 PM
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That looks like a very honest car to me. Loaded with luxury options like full instruments, reverb, AC. You would have thought with the other options, it would be an automatic trans car. 3-speed manual is so refreshing. I imagine it will bring a high wining bid.

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Old 12-11-2022, 02:07 PM
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Just a question, would the underbody of this car be originally painted with the body color or just red oxide primer? I have not seen any painted with the body color.

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Old 12-11-2022, 02:55 PM
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Just a question, would the underbody of this car be originally painted with the body color or just red oxide primer? I have not seen any painted with the body color.
Often times it depends on the build plant.

Never just red oxide on the early GTO’s.
Typically body color overspray on both sides behind the frame.
And of course the painter that day of a mass produced automobile.

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Old 12-11-2022, 05:51 PM
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Thanks for posting this. Clearly a very responsible person owned this car. If you scroll down to the documentation there’s a letter from the insurance company stating they were able to secure the owner $50k/person, $100k/accident bodily injury policy. In 1965!!! The current California minimum is $15k/person, $30k/accident. And there’s a sizable fraction of people driving around with ZERO insurance.

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I’m also curious about the car. Can someone identify the devices in these pics?
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Old 12-11-2022, 06:00 PM
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I’m also curious about the car. Can someone identify the devices in these pics?
Fuel pressure regulator (aftermarket) and hazard lights (OEM option)

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Old 12-11-2022, 07:14 PM
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An amazing specimen , and from the PMD Mother Plant.

I thought 1966 was the only year GTO that carried an upcharge for 3 spd in the floor ??¿.??¿ what's up

And also a line on window sticker noted - See Above for Extra Charge for GTO Optional Engine / Trans
Those 2 lines are new school to me !

I also see what X33 is asking about on the floorpan belly - it looks full solid Dk Blue Met
and its a PMD build ... have not witnessed that much and that uniform "over spray" before.
Just an observation

No PS , No PB on an AC car is really eclectic and a surprise
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Old 12-11-2022, 07:24 PM
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...letter from the insurance company stating they were able to secure the owner $50k/person, $100k/accident bodily injury policy. In 1965!!!
That was probably a contingency for covering him at all , the premiums would have been about double or triple duty for that much coverage in 1965. That was Hope Diamond coverage

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Old 12-11-2022, 07:36 PM
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Only thing is its advertise as hardtop and its a post.

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Old 12-11-2022, 08:15 PM
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77S $64.56
3 SPD Floor - Full Sync
First line on Dealer Copy - Car Shipping Record

Also noted on there is the 4way Flasher plus Labor to install , and Undercoating

The first couple pictures of underbelly looked solid Blue , but that was an illusion.
In other pics it only goes in about maybe 10-12 inches ... more normal.

Whoever and whatever they used to remove the undercoat got fantastic results from what it appears

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More info on trans option from the performance brochure. It shows different ratios and was available beginning March 1st 1965 lining up with same week this car was built.
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Old 12-11-2022, 08:45 PM
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Did anyone else notice the rough draft worksheet where he was also contemplating aluminum front brake drums
AND Special Paint = Cadillac Firemist Green !
Pic #236

Thanks 428ho4spd for the 3spd Info

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Did anyone else notice the rough draft worksheet where he was also contemplating aluminum front brake drums
AND Special Paint = Cadillac Firemist Green !
Pic #236
I didn't look closely enough to catch that. That would have been something had he ordered it in that color!

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Lots to learn from this UFO - Unrestored Factory Original.

It’s clear in a couple photos of the under body of where the Blue overspray meets the black.
It’s difficult to see here on the PY photos.

The “dry ice blast” is the way to go, especially if you are taking off that decades old undercoat.

That Original owner knew exactly how to operate the wing windows, “push here”, which is the safest way to prevent damage to those fragile frames.

This ‘65 does have some rust issues however.
I’d like to see the trunk floor.

Awesome car!
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Old 12-12-2022, 12:06 AM
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I just saw the dialogue about aluminum drums from the seller.
Picture 197 shows cast iron drums and a quick magnet test will verify.
Pic 236 seems to me to be the last rough draft before they finalized , and he dropped them.
And like 428ho4spd said - I sure do wish he had kept the Cadillac Firemist color ! that he also dropped

The 14x6 Kelsey decal likely peeled off the spare wheel in trunk.
It wouldn't have 14x6 brake drums.
KH made steel wheels too - usually a KH stamping can be found on their rims under a full investigation even if the tire has to come off the rim to find it.

Ask him to post the Car Billing History Card from PHS , please , if someone could.
That would definitely have the Aluminum Drum Code even if the accounting dept missed it in the dollars and cents.

Its a sweet machine and I hope one of you guys on here buys it.

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Only thing is its advertise as hardtop and its a post.
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Old 12-12-2022, 12:22 PM
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More info on trans option from the performance brochure. It shows different ratios and was available beginning March 1st 1965 lining up with same week this car was built.
That would be the Dearborn, (Ford), 3-speed toploader trans, cool

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Very legit car, like 60Stuff stated i would like to see the trunk One photo of rear wheel well seems to show rot, also DS rear qrt.

I was amazed how clean the control arms were and thr fram almost look like fresh paint.

Did anyone see it at MCACN this year?

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