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Yes. I would definitely buy. | 41 | 50.62% | |
Yes. I would buy one if I could find the carbs | 34 | 41.98% | |
No. Too expensive even though I have the carbs. | 6 | 7.41% | |
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll |
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We were approached by a Pontiac enthusiast that is very serious about producing the original 1966 Tripower intake in aluminum. Tooling has already started. He has asked us to be his main source of distribution on this intake. There will be a very small margin on this item therefore there will be no room to wholesale it to other vendors. I wanted to get a feel for how many members would be interested in purchasing one assuming the quality is excellent and the price is around $425-$450.
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We were approached by a Pontiac enthusiast that is very serious about producing the original 1966 Tripower intake in aluminum. Tooling has already started. He has asked us to be his main source of distribution on this intake. There will be a very small margin on this item therefore there will be no room to wholesale it to other vendors. I wanted to get a feel for how many members would be interested in purchasing one assuming the quality is excellent and the price is around $425-$450.
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Based on a conversation with Ccass concerning this item, I will purchase one if available by July 2003, and have voted accordingly. Won't have a need after that.
Jon. Good carburetion is fuelish hot air.
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I would buy two and have a customer who would take a third if production was soon and I was at
the top of the list for receiving them. (Do not have to be the first customer but would like to get a couple while I have money burning a hole in my pocket). Tom V.
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I will take one, i have been ragging on Edelbrock for 3 years to make one. Edelbrock keeps telling me "it won't be this year", when the real reason is Edelbrock does not sell 2bbl carbs. I WANT ONE let me know if you want a deposit or full payment up front. PUT ME ON THE LIST.
Robert Williams
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I want one. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Let's go racing! www.outlawpontiacs.com/members/B-Man2.php www.outlawpontiacs.com/members/B-Man.php
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I'm assuming this hobbyist is Steve S. I've been talking to him about this project for about 2.5 years maybe more.
If someone would reproduce carbs, that would sell for about $200 each, then a repo intake would be a hot item, as carbs would outnumber intakes. Right now, there seems to be a lack of correct carbs, but many bare intakes can still be found in the $200 range. Even with a bead blast and paint, the price would be about $225 total for a comprable intake. The advantage to the aluminum one would be weight. (unless it has improved flow characteristics) I'm not sure if the weight savings is worth the extra $200. If I were using a tripower intake for a race car, I'd say it was worth the $200, but since most are not racing with tripower, and restorers want the original intake, I'm not sure how sales would do. |
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was i looking for a tripower intake at this time i'd be interested.
as andre said the lack of carbs will be a set back. now, if you can those reproduced as well, i think you'll have a good seller. i'd buy the aluminum unit before i bought an oem. mike
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I am looking to buy two as ONE will immediately be modified to work with Holley 2 barrels (500 cfm
rears and a 350 center). These carbs will easily bolt down with adaptors (I have done it, Bill Klausing at my suggestion did it, and a few others). If you are going to use an aluminum manifold EVERYONE who knows pontiacs will recognize that it is NOT stock so the restoration comment is not valid unless you are going to paint over a perfectly good manifold. This same question was asked on the edelbrock heads when they were first proposed and hundreds of heads have been sold since. A lot of High flow E heads are on street cars that could run ported stock heads for the normal driving the people do BUT the people want the aluminum heads. Holley sells the Holleys at about the same price as the core cost you mentioned for the rochesters and you get a new carb. (Plus parts are easy to buy for them anywhere!) Just my opinion. Tom V. ps If Chris wants to donate a new manifold, I will be happy to show his customers how to modify it to run Holleys.
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I'm interested!
I was asking locally about having my current intake drilled for stealth NOS under the intake instead of plates on top, I was told they could only do this on aluminum intakes. I bet some tricky guy somewhere will figure out a way to hide NOS on bottom of these new aluminum intakes [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] Tim Baker
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Besides being smaller, why won't the regular 2barrel Catalina carbs work? I know the fuel lines enter from the front, but besides making fuel lines, why can't you just use those?
Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala. |
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With some knowledge you can make a tri-power carb for 1966 manifold out of any BIG CAR carbs. Have
to change and fabricate linkage, eliminate the powervalve on the secondary carbs, eliminate the idle circuit on the secondary carbs, and open up the air bleeds (easy) to the tri-power specs. None of it is hard, just the carbs will not be totally correct. Tom V.
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I spoke to Steve at Turkey Rod Run yesterday. He is trying to get the end carb tops cast. He mentioned that someone already does the base plates, but didn't elaborate. Maybe this will solve the shortage of end carbs.
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I think Charlie Price at Vintage Speed has the base's. He has been building the base's out of aluminum for the small base Rochester carbs for some time. He was to start building them for the large base Rochester this year, also made out of aluminum for the end carbs, not cheap. http://www.vintagespeed.com
Robert Williams
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I bought a '66 tri-power intake that had 3 Holley
2 barrels on it.I think one or two of the outer carbs had a hole put in the outer edges as the carbs overlaped.This was on a 389 with a huge cam. |
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Apparently, they used Holley 500 2bbls like I did with my latest effort except I cut the air cleaner flange so that it looked like a 440 6 pack flange and had LOTs of room. The 440 6 pack carbs go on with no carb mods. (You must use carb adaptors though unless the manifold mounting flange is modified. Tom V.
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I'd take one of those aluminum manifolds. Like to see it cast with a little more meat in the runner walls(roof) so that you can open up to RA4(Edelbock) port size though. I tried 3 Holleys on a pontiac tripower, makes for an ugly setup. They look good on the 427 chevys and the mopars manifold, but the rochesters are much more visually appealing on a pontiac. It's no problem plumbing a tripower for nitrous from underneath- all you need is a kaufmann's aluminum valley pan, and a fogger setup with annular discharge nozzles. Point them as straight into the head intake port as physically possible, and plumb them with SS braided. It's not cheap, but it can be done with little effort. I'm not too interested in hiding mine though...
1965 GTO <br />Nitrous Injected Tripower 464" Aluminum heads, Hydraulic cam<br />Vertically Gated M22 4-speed
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I would buy one. Especially if there were potential for improved flow mods or even a different design to improve performance. Isn't thats what it is all about, making our ponchos go faster?
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The flow bench testing I did showed that the Rochester carbs are the cork in the system. A
slightly reworked 1966 manifold with 3 holleys allowed a basic 455 station wagon (weighing 4400 lbs) to run 12.06 at 112 mph. If we could get the manifold to flow around 280 at 28" that would be over 550 hp on a street type manifold. Tom V.
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I don't get it.
It's not stock, so it's useless in restorations. Is it going to outflow a Victor or Torker? What's the application, again? Anything post '66 wouldn't look right with 3 carbs....... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img] |
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