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Getting ready to install the Deluxe (Legendary) interior door panels in my 1970. I see there are some small holes along the lower edge of the door that I presume were drilled for trim screws. My question is: Are trim screws used/needed to secure the panels to the doors? The holes I mentioned would be in the carpeted area of the Deluxe door panels. Anyone have a picture they could post? Thx.

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They use the small nylon plastic plugs in the door and the typical metal clips that slide onto the door trim backboards.

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There are no holes in the doors for those plastic push in plugs. I think those were in later years.

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Are trim screws required to be used to secure the lower/carpeted portion of the trim panels to the door shell? Dave

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Yes they use trim screws to hold carpet section.But be careful the drill can pull the carpet .

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Ames part number FA178KN, (door panel trim screw set), $5.00 a set. 1970-1972

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Are trim screws required to be used to secure the lower/carpeted portion of the trim panels to the door shell? Dave
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Tip: Use something like an awl to puncture the door panel at the screw locations. Dont use a drill.
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Can someone post a pic of a finished panel installed so that I can see where the screws belong? There are some extra holes in my doors from previous owner and I want to use the correct holes. Many thanks.

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I would have to agree with the last two posts.
I know later door panels didn't originally use trim screws, but my first hand experience is that these do.

Just after I posted I saw that you posted again:

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Can someone post a pic of a finished panel installed so that I can see where the screws belong? There are some extra holes in my doors from previous owner and I want to use the correct holes. Many thanks.
It took me a while to find a picture of a car that wasn't restored, but here:


I can share other pictures, but they will be from restored cars... and they all seem to indicate the same approximate locations.
I'd wager an assembly manual shows where the assembly line workers were intended to place the retaining screws.
Also cars with deluxe panels seem to have the screw heads obscured by the carpet.

Here's an example Of a restored car with the screw locations quite visible:
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Exactly what I needed! Many thanks unruhjonny. Dave

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I'm happy to help!

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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Dpoltzer,
Are those the style armrests you you purchased from Legendary? What Unruhjonny pictured? If so how is the quality? Are they supple?

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Make sure they have the captive cup washer.

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