[Speargun]

I've heard lots of good things about the Wenzler Gutsram intake, but nothing about the EFI top for it. Anyone tried it yet?

I'm about to swap my Pro-flo 4 for a Holley Terminator X and have a buyer for the Edelbrock system, but he wants the Super Victor intake & dominator throttle body also. Now I have the choice of running the Torker EFI intake, drilling a Victor intake for injectors, or the Gutsram with an EFI topper.

It will end up on a 10.8:1 aluminum IA2 535. 340cfm heads and a .600/.572 252/262 hyd roller. It's in a street driven '67 bird so driveability is more important than HP.

[65madgoat]

Check with LUHN for a North Wind intake with EFI bungs. Or Wilson can do it for you. I'd run that North Wind intake....

[JLMounce]

I agree with 65madgoat here. I'd want a Northwind on that, especially knowing it's going in a first gen. I'd opt for the northwind with the 4500 flange. Opt for the 340 cfm port work from Kauffman, then have injector bungs welded in.

[Speargun]

Originally Posted by JLMounce

I agree with 65madgoat here. I'd want a Northwind on that, especially knowing it's going in a first gen. I'd opt for the northwind with the 4500 flange. Opt for the 340 cfm port work from Kauffman, then have injector bungs welded in.

The victor fit fine under the 4" cowl hood so clearance isn't a huge issue.
Isn't the northwind a copy of the HSD? Because I have a few of those laying around.

Here's what I have to work with:
4150 throttle body or 102mm LS style TB. A new TB isn't in the budget.

Intakes:
Torker EFI
Holley Street Dominator
Victor (Has bungs, but not drilled)
Warrior
Torker (Original)

[JLMounce]

The 4150 flange will sacrifice some power on your build, but if this is a street car as you state, probably not a big concern.

I also didn't realize you were running a large cowl.

Given the costs involved to have an intake worked on to add injector bungs, and the fact that you need an intake, have you considered a Victor EFI? These will have a 4150 base and come manufactured with injector bungs. I want to say they are between 600-700 or so. Might be the best and most economical route.

[Gary H]

Originally Posted by Speargun

The victor fit fine under the 4" cowl hood so clearance isn't a huge issue.
Isn't the northwind a copy of the HSD? Because I have a few of those laying around.

Here's what I have to work with:
4150 throttle body or 102mm LS style TB. A new TB isn't in the budget.

Intakes:
Torker EFI
Holley Street Dominator
Victor (Has bungs, but not drilled)
Warrior
Torker (Original)

No, the Northwind is the KRE version of a Victor. Just a little shorter. Think it has slightly smaller runners than the Victor too.

[R 70 Judge]

Wilson’s can convert a Northwind for you. If you catch them during one of their flash sales you can save a few bucks.

Mine was converted by Funkhouser Racecars. They used all Wilson’s parts. It’s a 4500 and I opted for the extra plenum work from KRE.

[Speargun]

I was running a 4500 Super Victor EFI with an Accel 4500 TB, but the guy that wants my pro-flo 4 system won't take it without the Victor setup. I figured that I'd see if anyone has run the Gutsram EFI because, well, it looks kinda badass.

I'll probably put the Torker EFI on it for now since I have everything to get it on the road, but I'll upgrade it eventually.

[Speargun]

Am I missing something?

I emailed Luhn about a Northwind EFI intake and was quoted $1200 +shipping! I don't think that price included injector rails.
Is $600-$700 really the going rate to weld on some injector bungs and drill them out? I would have guessed $250-$350.

What makes the Northwind more desirable than the Victor?
Given that a Victor EFI is about 1/2 the cost of a Northwind EFI, I would have to assume that there are some significant gains from the Northwind to justify the additional cost.

[JLMounce]

Originally Posted by Speargun

Am I missing something?

I emailed Luhn about a Northwind EFI intake and was quoted $1200 +shipping! I don't think that price included injector rails.
Is $600-$700 really the going rate to weld on some injector bungs and drill them out? I would have guessed $250-$350.

What makes the Northwind more desirable than the Victor?
Given that a Victor EFI is about 1/2 the cost of a Northwind EFI, I would have to assume that there are some significant gains from the Northwind to justify the additional cost.

Inflation is a bitch. That's why I recommended the Victor EFI. You get the manifold pre-setup for just the price of having the conversion done.

The Northwind is a good piece that is designed to fit under flat hoods while providing the additional plenum volume and airflow needed for large inch or high power engines. Since you aren't running a flat hood and have a good bit of space, the victor is still a good choice for you.

You can certainly run that torker efi that you have, but you'll be giving up a good amount of flow to your heads, especially given the size of your engine. I'd probably try and sell a couple of your intakes to fund what you need here.

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by Speargun

I was running a 4500 Super Victor EFI with an Accel 4500 TB, but the guy that wants my pro-flo 4 system won't take it without the Victor setup. I figured that I'd see if anyone has run the Gutsram EFI because, well, it looks kinda badass.

I'll probably put the Torker EFI on it for now since I have everything to get it on the road, but I'll upgrade it eventually.

An EFI Gutsram would be super cool! Unfortunately, it is too tall for my application. Thats why I went with the Northwind.

[Speargun]

Originally Posted by JLMounce

Inflation is a bitch.

LOL! You got that right!
I haven't bought parts in a few years and when I look now, everything has doubled or tripled in price.
I think I'm suffering from a severe case of sticker shock.

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by Speargun

Am I missing something?

I emailed Luhn about a Northwind EFI intake and was quoted $1200 +shipping! I don't think that price included injector rails.
Is $600-$700 really the going rate to weld on some injector bungs and drill them out? I would have guessed $250-$350.

What makes the Northwind more desirable than the Victor?
Given that a Victor EFI is about 1/2 the cost of a Northwind EFI, I would have to assume that there are some significant gains from the Northwind to justify the additional cost.

Wilson's does conversions for $950 which includes all of the parts (rails, bungs, and stanchions, etc).

If you catch them during one of their Black Friday or Holiday 10%-20% off sales, it does apply to the labor and parts for the conversion.

https://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/page...on-conversions

Funkhouser Racecars can do the conversion for you as well. They will be cheaper than Wilson's but not by a ton (probably $800-$900'ish). They use all Wilson's parts. You can call or email them.

https://www.funkhouserracecars.com/

Edit: I see you are in Florida. You can also try Gaby Labiosa of EIC Motorsports. I'm fairly certain he could help you out with the EFI conversion. He's built some fast Pontiacs in the past

https://www.facebook.com/eicmotorsports
https://www.instagram.com/eic_motorsports/

[Travis Wasko]

Induction Solutions will also convert your intake to EFI, as another option that may be close to you.


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