Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-08-2002, 07:58 AM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

I have 2 1966 Bonnevilles. Both are YE 389 4barrel auto cars. Both have dual exhaust with 40 series Flowmasters. My 4dr has 2" pipes, my 2dr has 2 1/4" pipes. Besides the fact that my 4dr has a 1/4" smaller pipe why is it so much quieter than my 2dr? My 2dr is LOUD, my 4dr is REAL quiet.

They both have #92 heads, same ignition coil, Accell 8mm wires.

What is the deal?? I really don't want to have to replace the pipes on my car.

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #2  
Old 10-08-2002, 07:58 AM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

I have 2 1966 Bonnevilles. Both are YE 389 4barrel auto cars. Both have dual exhaust with 40 series Flowmasters. My 4dr has 2" pipes, my 2dr has 2 1/4" pipes. Besides the fact that my 4dr has a 1/4" smaller pipe why is it so much quieter than my 2dr? My 2dr is LOUD, my 4dr is REAL quiet.

They both have #92 heads, same ignition coil, Accell 8mm wires.

What is the deal?? I really don't want to have to replace the pipes on my car.

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #3  
Old 10-08-2002, 08:18 AM
Bungee Bungee is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: San Diego, Californy
Posts: 322
Default

Muffler bearings could be wearing out.

  #4  
Old 10-08-2002, 08:20 AM
cpetrice cpetrice is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 394
Default

yeah,take a left hand wrench,adjust the muffler bearings. you may need a skyjack to help with lift.

  #5  
Old 10-08-2002, 08:31 AM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

[img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Ok, a real answer this time..........

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #6  
Old 10-08-2002, 08:33 AM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

Its because I left the little U things off of my Eagle Rods right?


I think the framus rod is bad, something about the duration of my camber shaft being to short?

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #7  
Old 10-08-2002, 10:01 AM
Half-Inch Stud's Avatar
Half-Inch Stud Half-Inch Stud is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: BlueBell, PA or AL U.S.A.
Posts: 18,476
Default

different cams

"11.00/123MPH/1.50 60foot/29.5"/4.10:1/10"/472 #48/Flat HYD/DualQuad/Wenzler/3250Lbs
12.00/112MPH/1.61 60foot/26"/3.31:1/10"/472 #48/FlatHYD/Q-Jet/Torker/3650Lbs"

__________________
12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct

Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct
Sold 1994: 11.00/123MPH/1.50 60'/29.5"x4.10:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Dual600s-Wenzler/3250Lbs//94oct
  #8  
Old 10-08-2002, 10:03 AM
428GTO70's Avatar
428GTO70 428GTO70 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: MN
Posts: 1,691
Send a message via MSN to 428GTO70
Default

Also any little manifold leak will resonate as a very loud sound out the exhaust. At least thats been my experience.


GR-RRR!

__________________

1970 GTO 458 CID .040 over 4 Bolt 428 Block, Forged Eagle 455 Crank, 295 CFM SD KRE D-Ports, SD Old Faithful HR Cam + Comp HR Lifters, PPR Maxx-lite rods, Racetec pistons, PRW 1.65 SS Rockers, 900CFM Holley HP TBI, Performer RPM, Hooker Super Comps, 3" X-Pipe into 2.5" mufflers/tailpipes, 2.75 1st TH400, Continental 13" Converter, 8.5" 3.08 Posi.
Everything installed, fired up and tuning has begun!
  #9  
Old 10-08-2002, 06:32 PM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

I was thinking about the cam, I wouldn't think that they would have different cams in them.

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #10  
Old 10-08-2002, 06:36 PM
bonneville Joe's Avatar
bonneville Joe bonneville Joe is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: My shop www.classicpontiacrescue.com
Posts: 2,767
Default

According to my book, they both have the same cam in them. I am so confused.....

Give me a thumbs up, tell me "Nice Car!", but for god's sake, don't call it an Impala.

__________________
_____________________________
www.classicpontiacrescue.com
  #11  
Old 10-08-2002, 06:38 PM
David Jones's Avatar
David Jones David Jones is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pleasant Grove, Alabama
Posts: 8,412
Default

Larger pipes will make more noise. How much of a difference is there?

http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/DavidJones69GTO.html

__________________

frittering and wasting the hours in an off hand way....



1969 GTO, 455ci, 230/236 Pontiac Dude's "Butcher Special" Comp hyd roller cam with Crower HIPPO solid roller lifters, Q-jet, Edelbrock P4B-QJ, Doug's headers, ported 6X-8 (97cc) heads, TKO600, 3.73 geared Eaton Tru-Trac 8.5", hydroboost, rear disc brakes......and my greatest mechanical feat....a new heater core.
  #12  
Old 10-08-2002, 06:46 PM
Goathead's Avatar
Goathead Goathead is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Galveston, Texas U.S.A.
Posts: 2,317
Send a message via AIM to Goathead
Default

Joe, are you talking outside of the car is louder or inside is louder?



http://www.kurtspontiac.homestead.com/Dannys65GTO.html

__________________
SIGPIC]http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=139862&dateline=12616 03096[/SIGPIC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrDl3nRNCM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvywdocl4GA

http://ultimategto.com/icongraf/65headtitle.jpg
  #13  
Old 10-08-2002, 08:10 PM
Will Will is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Pugetopolis
Posts: 5,297
Default

Going from 2" to 2-1/4" is a significant difference.

Don't change to smaller exhaust pipes, put quieter mufflers on. Those Flowmasters are LOUD. Try Walker/Dynomax Super Turbos instead.


__________________
----------------------------
'72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car!
'73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match.
  #14  
Old 10-14-2002, 08:46 AM
stu stu is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: raleigh, nc
Posts: 273
Default

Yeah the smaller pipes have 79% cross sectional area of the larger pipes, which as they said makes a big diff. Also, if the pipes have any additional bends that can have a big effect. I changed the tailpipes on my truck from el cheapos to full mandrel bends and it was as if there were no pipes at all, a huge increase in noise.

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:07 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017