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I haven't driven this car in car in over 20 years.

I changed the oil put a battery in it, put a little gas down the carb and it started right up. I let it warm up and and drove it for about 10 miles. It did everything just like I remembered when I drove it regularly as far as shifting and handling. It does need a brake work, it seems like a caliper is sticking a bit. My younger son (25 yrs. old) thought it was blast to drive. I've owned this car since before he was born but he has never had any interaction with it. His everyday car is an 83 C10 Stepside so he has old car fever too.

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About time you got with the program old man!!

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72 455 HO Formula, NICE!

Good to wake them up from their slumber.


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I haven't driven this car in car in over 20 years.
Very Cool Car !
Was it the special order color Juniper/Jupiter Green ?

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Good stuff. I love those HO engines.

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Very Cool Car !
Was it the special order color Juniper/Jupiter Green ?
I think the color is Juniper but don't quite me on that. The car was repainted when I bought it by the guy I bought it from. The original color was green but much lighter than what you see. And in my opinion the original is a much prettier color. If and when I get around to this car it will go back to original. I have owned this car since 1981 or 82. I rebuilt the engine in about 83. The tranny and rear have never been touched with exception of fluid changes. It does have some rust issues but it has been indoors since 1984.

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I thought the jambs looked like it was probably that color.
Juniper is the right name
Jupiter sounds better though. lol

Have not come across many cars that color
i ""think"" there might be an HO Formula in another country that is Juniper owned by a PY member, but i might be wrong about his color.

Here are a couple of GTO's in Juniper Green



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Awesome car, Frankie. Killer color, too. She's going to look fantastic when you get done. And that '72 grille - my favorite !!

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Thank you for the compliments...

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I thought the jambs looked like it was probably that color.
Juniper is the right name
Jupiter sounds better though. lol

Have not come across many cars that color
i ""think"" there might be an HO Formula in another country that is Juniper owned by a PY member, but i might be wrong about his color.

Here are a couple of GTO's in Juniper Green



Yes that's the color...And now that you mention it, I think you're right, Leigh in Australia's car is this color...

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Very neat car!

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Julep Green, BVZ.... think Mint Julep

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i don't remember who introduced that color on here as Juniper.
It all started with the restored 72 GTO i pictured, when it was discussed years ago.
I need to go back and change the file names or i will call it that forever.

Turns out Juniper Green is a very very dark olive green shade
Jupiter Green would be a super cool name - not sure if it exists yet

I don't know if it was a "Spring Color" that cost extra on all cars
Or if it might have been a Firebird Only color
It was $113 extra charge on a GTO
Have not seen an invoice for a JULEP Bird

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cool you have hung on to it all these years. where did it sell new?

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There was a 1972 Formula 455HO, four speed, a/c car for sale in Northern California about five years ago that was originally Julep green. It needed a complete restoration but it would have been a nice car to restore. Sadly, it was priced too high and lots of the original stuff was long gone, so it would have cost a fortune to restore. It had a 350 with a saginaw four speed in it when I inquired about it. I don't know what ever became of it, but there was at least one other Julep green car out there.
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i don't remember who introduced that color on here as Juniper.
It all started with the restored 72 GTO i pictured, when it was discussed years ago.
I need to go back and change the file names or i will call it that forever.

Turns out Juniper Green is a very very dark olive green shade
Jupiter Green would be a super cool name - not sure if it exists yet

I don't know if it was a "Spring Color" that cost extra on all cars
Or if it might have been a Firebird Only color
It was $113 extra charge on a GTO
Have not seen an invoice for a JULEP Bird

Judging by the color chart it would have to be code 36 but that looks dark to me. We have to consider that chart has aged some and the computer put its own spin on it. If I had to guess I would say it looks more like code 45 Emerald, but I realize that's not a Pontiac color. I should have taken a picture of the trim tag. Next time I'm at the car I'll get a picture of the tag.

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cool you have hung on to it all these years. where did it sell new?
I never got a PHS on it, but when I bought it obviously Pontiac was still in business and I called them (back in 1981). According to them at that time there 5250 72 Formulas and of those something like 250 were 455HO's. Now this car is an original Ram Air car and don't know with 100% certainty if Ram Air was an option. I think I read somewhere that only for "72" if you opted for the 455HO you automatically got Ram Air. I have to admit that back when it was a "used" car I did omit some pollution control stuff like TCS and I took the actuators of the air filter housing which seem to be one year only(I regret that now, but did it nicely so if I found some they would go right back on, nothing is hacked). Oh, I also took off the exhaust manifold shields. But, everything else is still there including intake and exhaust. It does have F41 handling package, 3.08 posi, automatic, power windows and obviously A/C. When I got it it had aftermarket wheels so not sure if had HC or Rally II's. It does have standard interior, It has full gages and the original T/A steering wheel. I am the third owner and as far as I know it was purchased originally in south Florida. I think at the end of this week I will order the PHS...

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The DuPont paint chips back in that era were done with ink colors made to look like semi-close representatives of the colors.

I sold DuPont automotive paint products in early/mid 80's and the chips were still done using inks up to that point in time.

A shame you missed out on the 1-800-PONTIAC free invoices in the later 80's.
For about 2 or 3 years they did them for free 1969 - through that current year.
When PHS started out with it, it was $25 iirc

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