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Old 01-27-2014, 02:35 AM
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It is a 477cid. Crazy part is that first gear was pretty much a waste...just look at the 60'! LOL 35MPH out the back door was badass back then (09').
Brian,
At only 477 ci that really is awesome! Did you ever dyno your engine? For my simulation I am using around 1270 HP and torque 980. For my simulation to some what match your run I had to pull power out until about 87 feet out and then had it shifting into second at about 101 feet out.

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PS - I would guess that you are doing this running less than one bar of boost.

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Old 01-27-2014, 11:26 AM
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When I simulate Kinsler's 8.42 N/A run he has over 2 G's down low

60 Foot ET = 1.1675
330 Foot ET = 3.3967
1/8 Mile ET = 5.3293
1/8 Mile MPH = 126.6948
1000 Foot ET = 7.0071
1/4 Mile ET = 8.4242
1/4 Mile MPH = 159.7267

When I simulate your run you have just a little over 1.5 G's
If you get your car to hook like Kinsler's

60 Foot ET = 1.1642
330 Foot ET = 3.2924
1/8 Mile ET = 5.1296
1/8 Mile MPH = 133.3245
1000 Foot ET = 6.7235
1/4 Mile ET = 8.0694
1/4 Mile MPH = 168.1848

Note this is still at 3900 foot DA.

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At only 477 ci that really is awesome! Did you ever dyno your engine? For my simulation I am using around 1270 HP and torque 980. For my simulation to some what match your run I had to pull power out until about 87 feet out and then had it shifting into second at about 101 feet out.

Stan

PS - I would guess that you are doing this running less than one bar of boost.
You're really close....1273HP/975TQ

Where you pulled the power out is close too. I was using a RPM based retard curve and that is prolly right around where the power started coming back in.

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When I simulate Kinsler's 8.42 N/A run he has over 2 G's down low

60 Foot ET = 1.1675
330 Foot ET = 3.3967
1/8 Mile ET = 5.3293
1/8 Mile MPH = 126.6948
1000 Foot ET = 7.0071
1/4 Mile ET = 8.4242
1/4 Mile MPH = 159.7267

When I simulate your run you have just a little over 1.5 G's
If you get your car to hook like Kinsler's

60 Foot ET = 1.1642
330 Foot ET = 3.2924
1/8 Mile ET = 5.1296
1/8 Mile MPH = 133.3245
1000 Foot ET = 6.7235
1/4 Mile ET = 8.0694
1/4 Mile MPH = 168.1848

Note this is still at 3900 foot DA.

Stan
Back when I ran that time, I was guesstimating it might go a low teen or a high 8.0X once I got the front half figured out.

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Between what you've learned and the new Pro tires your 60 will rock!

First CV1 in the 7's right here folks, write it down!

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Between what you've learned and the new Pro tires your 60 will rock!

First CV1 in the 7's right here folks, write it down!
He would probably get a lifetime membership to the CV1Channel for that!!!

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Between what you've learned and the new Pro tires your 60 will rock!

First CV1 in the 7's right here folks, write it down!
whoa whoa whoa, lets not get to far ahead of yourself.

Im betting he wont be the first.

Mark it down, here is a pic you can add to your computers wall paper just to keep it fresh in your mind.
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Very cool car. Get it moving man and let's see a great number. I'm looking foward to it.

Get it going and drop Big Chief a note. He claimed to be leaning the CV-1 way, you might be able to share some info.

Good luck and that's a cool car. Well done.

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whoa whoa whoa, lets not get to far ahead of yourself.

Im betting he wont be the first.

Mark it down, here is a pic you can add to your computers wall paper just to keep it fresh in your mind.

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whoa whoa whoa, lets not get to far ahead of yourself.

Im betting he wont be the first.

Mark it down, here is a pic you can add to your computers wall paper just to keep it fresh in your mind.

I made a post but it disappeared... Damn Moderators.

You might be right, its not at the top of Brian's list of priorities right now, but it will happen.

That's a cool car!

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I made a post but it disappeared... Damn Moderators.

You might be right, its not at the top of Brian's list of priorities right now, but it will happen.

That's a cool car!
Thanks

BTW your post went in the 2014 prediction thread.

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Very cool car. Get it moving man and let's see a great number. I'm looking foward to it.

Get it going and drop Big Chief a note. He claimed to be leaning the CV-1 way, you might be able to share some info.

Good luck and that's a cool car. Well done.
Thanks! Its been a long 3.5 years to get here. I wasnt planning on painting the car last year, that probably put me behind for norwalk and drag week. But I couldnt stand the blue anymore so it had to go.

As long as I dont make some stupid tuning mistake I think the car will do well.

I'd like to see someone else boost a set of cv-1's but I'll bet Big chief ends up with billets if he has issues with the e-heads. We'll see...

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Stan, back to the original post. I'm betting Brian is not blowing more than .6 bar on his engine.

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Stan, back to the original post. I'm betting Brian is not blowing more than .6 bar on his engine.
I would take that bet for a pound of ice cream at Norwalk;

1 Bar = 14.5 psi

.6 x 14.5 = 8.7 psi of boost.

(Add 20 psi to that number and you would be close with the CV-1 heads).

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Only if the cam and exh system is a pos and I'm betting it's not.

I'm quite capable of running the conversion of units but thanks for doing the donkey work for us.

Thanks for your input omniscient one.

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I would take that bet for a pound of ice cream at Norwalk;

1 Bar = 14.5 psi

.6 x 14.5 = 8.7 psi of boost.

(Add 20 psi to that number and you would be close with the CV-1 heads).

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Old 01-27-2014, 10:33 PM
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Maybe everyone else cannot do the conversion so easily Aaron, some think a Bar is 14.7 psi. Just passing on info. Why would you need a F-2 supercharger if you were only running 8 psi of boost. The board is not all about you, Aaron.

Low 8s on 8 psi, Right.

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Thanks for the 1.4% correction on pressure conversion for those who aren't keeping up on the board.

That would be 9 psi using proper rounding techniques with your engineering math bro. lol

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Maybe everyone else cannot do the conversion so easily Aaron, some think a Bar is 14.7 psi. Just passing on info. Why would you need a F-2 supercharger if you were only running 8 psi of boost. The board is not all about you, Aaron.

Low 8s on 8 psi, Right.

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Between what you've learned and the new Pro tires your 60 will rock!

First CV1 in the 7's right here folks, write it down!
damn i need to lighten up my car. maybe i can run it by remote control. lol

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PSI absolute vs psi gauge.... last time I looked at psi it was on a gauge, engineers always thinking... LOL leave it to a technician to build it and use it.

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damn i need to lighten up my car. maybe i can run it by remote control. lol
Let me know what you come up with.....

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